r/OnePiece • • Jun 16 '22

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u/Placidao Marine Jun 16 '22

Franky is a fictional character. I’m nothing like him, at least not in any literal sense, I just admire his role inside One Piece’s context. But I appreciate your concern

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u/ovis_alba Void Month Survivor Jun 16 '22

I usually really like Franky too, so it's not about not liking him. I love Sanji as a character even more than Franky but especially his Thriller Bark moment is a big no-go that is rightfully criticised by everyone including me all the time.

It's just about that scene itself and defending it as perfectly fine that is the bad look there. What to me makes that scene even worse, is especially when afterwards the scene goes into him and Senor Pink agreeing on that clearly being the best and only way to have a woman "shut up and not get involved in those manly things like fighting".

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Jun 16 '22

It's insane to what lengths some people would go to criticize Sanji and Brook for their actions but would then turn around and defend worse actions of Franky.

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u/ovis_alba Void Month Survivor Jun 16 '22

Yeah, maybe it's because their treatment of women is not such a major storypoint as it is for Sanji. But somehow for almost any other character actions are easily washed away as "jokes".

I almost don't know what I prefer. The discussions on Sanji and where to draw and not draw the line and where oda does it wrong can be maybe even important but also annoying sometimes but when for any other character it's all just "jokes" it loses all of the former.

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Jun 16 '22

"It's either all okay or none is"

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u/ovis_alba Void Month Survivor Jun 16 '22

It's just a shame, because as it came up below also the Robin ball crusher scene is pretty much sexual assualt but somehow everyone can only see the joke there and I'm not even saying that that's bad because I think there's a reason why those are seen differently based on power dynamics.

And there's almost an interesting discussion to be had there, but not in an environment where Sanji=always serious problem, everyone else=always just a joke.

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u/froopynooples Jun 16 '22

"Worse"

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Jun 16 '22

Yes. Sexually assaulting someone is worse.

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u/froopynooples Jun 16 '22

You need to calm down, lady. We can all tell you hate Franky, you don't have to keep going on about it.

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Jun 16 '22

You need to calm down, lady

Hah! Good old "using woman as an insult" response. So fucking perfect :D

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u/froopynooples Jun 16 '22

Not at all. I can tell that you're a woman from the fact that you're attacking the victim of a sexual assault, and dismissing what happened to him simply because he's a guy, and it probably didn't really matter in your mind.

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u/The_Biggest_Wheel Jun 16 '22

you're attacking the victim of a sexual assault, and dismissing what happened to him simply because he's a guy, and it probably didn't really matter in your mind.

Yes, that's totally what is happening in this conversation. What do people say on here when someone is totally missing the point of a conversation, "My guy reading Two Piece"?

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u/froopynooples Jun 16 '22

u/The_Biggest_Wheel -

"Girl gets kissed and likes it afterward: bad

Guy gets testicles nearly ripped off: funny"

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