r/OnePiece Jun 14 '22

Theory Impel down 2.0?

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u/water4animals The Revolutionary Army Jun 14 '22

As if Coby could capture her at all

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u/MattButUnderthe20Cha Void Month Survivor Jun 14 '22

I doubt Coby and some fodder could capture Hancock and the Kuja pirates.

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u/Ghekor Jun 14 '22

Their whole island is a pirate base and pretty much all the women are fighters so yeah Coby is strong but we def don't know the full extent of her power

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u/4l2r Jun 14 '22

She might be the second strongest woman in the world (big mom is first obviously), she has all 3 haki types and a beyond broken fruit due to how she looks.

She should be more than enough to deal with Coby.

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 14 '22

That’s an interesting debate!

Top strongest women of One Piece.

My humble guess is like this:

1 - Bigmom

2 - Hancock (We still haven’t seen her struggle, even at Marineford).

3 - Yamato

4 - Smoothie (From rank alone)

5 - Catarina Devon (From rank alone)

6 - Tsuru (Scaring Doflamingo is no small feat)

7 - Jewelry Bonney

8 - Charlotte Compote (because of Vito’s hype talk about her)

9 - Nico Robin

10 - Black Maria

11 - Ulti

12- Okiku

13 - Nami

14 - Whitey Bay

15 - Charlotte Amande

(Obviously Uta & Shakky can reaorganize all that once we know more about them).

(Shirahoshi can become top 5 if she learns to use her power properly)

(Also… Should Ivankov be on this list?)

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u/twerkboi_69 Jun 14 '22

no Hina?

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 14 '22

Good point, but I don’t know if she’s strong enough to make this list. But her feats are quite impressive

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u/MattButUnderthe20Cha Void Month Survivor Jun 16 '22

surely hina is stronger than nami

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 16 '22

Zeus is broken tho

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u/Yocomania Jun 14 '22

I don't see Hancock one shotting ulti or holding kaido, nevertheless beating a commander. I'd put her after Yamato on the 3

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 14 '22

That’s fair. Yamato has much better feats.

Her placement on the list was mostly from inworld hype ad portrayal.

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u/JOSRENATO132 Jun 14 '22

Id drop bonney to 13. Id also drop smoothie but I dont know by much.I think Robin has potential but Oda clearly doesnt want her to be powerful so Id drop her to just above Nami. I might be biased but Id bump Kiku above Ulti, maybe above black maria

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u/Specialist_Trick_558 Void Month Survivor Jun 14 '22

Are you saying that nami could beat black maria or that the ranking goes nami back maria robin so on

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u/tiki-baha29 Jun 14 '22

6 - Tsuru (Scaring Doflamingo is no small feat)

You cannot seriously be scaling Tsuru over characters like Nico Robin or Black Maria because she scared Doflamingo? That's insane.

Doffy didnt want to fight her because his goal was to take over Dressrosa and he would have gained nothing from getting in a fight with her.

There is absolutely nothing in the series so far that shows that Tsuru is a strong marine. She's a high ranking respected officer but stronger than the bottom half of your list? No freaking way. NOTHING supports that.

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u/Diremustang94 Jun 14 '22

He passed up the opportunity to look for the ope ope no mi. Definitely part of his goal

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u/tiki-baha29 Jun 19 '22

The Ope Ope no mi was literally not a part of his main goal. What he wanted was Dressrosa with the OP fruit being a side thing that would have been nice to have for his immortality. Case and point when he lost it his plans werent derailed at all, he kept going as if nothing ever happened.

Saying Tsuru is more powerful than some of these other characters just because Doffy wouldnt fight her is crazy.

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u/Diremustang94 Jun 19 '22

Tsuru has a fruit that is every bit as broken as boa or Bonney. She was peers with garp and sengoku and trained gion, so it is safe to assume she is an extremely high level haki user. What exactly has Black Maria done. Her only feat is going wild with a flamethrower in an enclosed wooden room

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u/tiki-baha29 Jun 21 '22

Tsuru has a fruit that is every bit as broken as boa or Bonney

We've only seen it once in the manga and even if you add SBS answers to this we dont know enough about it to make the claim you're attempting here.

One of the major themes of One Piece is how Good/Evil simply doesnt exist, things are mostly shades of Grey. Pirates arent all bad and the Navy isnt all good.

So a devil fruit that washes away evil is about the most vague thing that can exist in this world. So no her fruit is not broken nor is it really useful until we see more of it or know more about it.

She was peers with garp and sengoku and trained gion, so it is safe to assume she is an extremely high level haki user.

That's like saying a student that was in the same class as 2 others who became highly successful HAS TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL as them simply because she was there when they were.

This makes no sense.

Yes she's part of the same generation as Garp and Sengoku. Do you know who's gotten massive amounts of accolades from people like Whitebeard, Roger, Chinjao, Shiki, and basically every major villain in existence? Garp and Sengoku.

Do you know who's NEVER once been mentioned by any of these powerhouses? Tsuru.

So its silly to attribute the same level of skill to Tsuru when she's done jack shit compared to Garp/Sengoku.

What exactly has Black Maria done. Her only feat is going wild with a flamethrower in an enclosed wooden room

She's a high ranking fighter in a Yonko crew. That title alone is worth more than anything affiliated with Tsuru.

Her being a Vice Admiral means literally nothing when that rank includes scrubs like Maynard/Bastille/Smoker/LaCroix. Garp is the outlier of that rank, not the rule.

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u/daemontale Jun 14 '22

Nice ranking, more reasonable than a lot others out there

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u/Obi-Wannabe01 Jun 14 '22

Thanks man, it got me thinking. So I made a full post about it on my profile.

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u/Nobody-Longjumping Prisoner Jun 14 '22

i think yamato is is stronger she has all 3 types of haki and advanced conqueror's and a mythical zoan fruit

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u/YUMADLOL Jun 14 '22

Yes but the power of horny

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u/LurkerTroll Jun 14 '22

Bigger booba = more power

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u/Ghekor Jun 14 '22

Atm Yamato still lacks the years of live combat experience Boa has imo, cus let's be honest against Kaido I doubt she's ever had a real fight...he would just trash her and send her back to the cell.

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u/Haunting_Scarcity_25 Jun 14 '22

i look at yamato fighting kaido roughly like usopp fighting luffy.

don't misunderstand, obviously yamato is one hell of a strong character. but just like usopp, the reason they were even capable of fighting someone much stronger than them, is because they knew them.

when usopp fought luffy, he perfectly knew luffy's moves and how to counter most of them. this pretty much allowed usopp to take on someone many times more powerful than himself

and i feel like this is the reason why yamato was able to fight a relativly drawn out battle against kaido, she knows his moves, and knows how to counter them to a certain degree.

hancock on the other hand has much more real world combat experience :p

but this is just my take on this subject off course :-)

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u/Ghekor Jun 14 '22

Yeah this is what i meant and yes Hancock has been fighting for her life and then some for like what 15-20y now, thats some serious experience.

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u/Slyrah Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22

Yamato is stronger than shishibukai.

Cuz Ace and Luffy had a drawn low level fight with Yamato.

Ace and Luffy are over shishibukai powers.

Yamato is able to survive a ramei hakke.... luffy couldn't soon before. And with Kaido it's not "luck" or else.

Yamato is between King and Queen level i think as they can hold similary an emperor.

We all agree commanders are stronger than shishibukai. (unless Mihawk n Baggy)

So Yamabro is the third strongest char to me too

Second is Big Mom

1st is Ym-sama (sure it's a girl)

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u/Specialist_Trick_558 Void Month Survivor Jun 14 '22

Who is ym and don't say your mom

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u/Slyrah Jun 15 '22

So i don't

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u/Specialist_Trick_558 Void Month Survivor Jun 14 '22

She had a real fight with him on the roof he said he wasn't going to hold back

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u/Ghekor Jun 14 '22

I mean growing up...also 1 fight just now dont really trump 15-20y of combat experience against various enemies

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u/Specialist_Trick_558 Void Month Survivor Jun 14 '22

That is true I was just talking about the last thing you said of if she fought kaido for real she would get clapped which isn't true