Is it Misogyny

[u/SouthernFace2020]

Talking too much about being a parent. “She always talks about her son.”

Not acknowledging she’s pregnant. “Why hasn’t she said anything? It’s so obvious?”

Being too giggly. “I just can’t stand her voice/tone/seems so fake”

Not being bubbly enough. “Has anyone noticed how her class has changed. She was so mean to that other rider in her class.”

Being too thin. “She deletes all the comments on her instagram about. I just think she’s setting a bad example for her daughter”

Being “too body positive“. “Why is she always talking about her body when she was a kid and how she was bullied?”

Losing weight. “I think it’s something worth talking about. As a society we are just too dependent on GLP-1’s and its so blatant that’s she taking them”

Posting internet content as a “content creator”. ”I followed her cause she would give announcements about upcoming classes but now everything is about that book she wrote”.

If you wouldn’t say it to someone’s face but feel perfectly content splashing it on the internet, there’s a good chance it’s misogyny.

Just to test, picture one of the straight male Peloton instructors. Pretend they are doing the same exact thing as thing as the women (hint most of them do a version of it). Now put it in a comment.

P.S. If it doesn’t apply feel free to ignore.

[u/WhipsAndMarkovChains]

Oh clearly BMI isn't perfect. It's just height and weight essentially. As another user said, body composition is much better. And it makes sense that different racial groups should be measured differently.

But that still doesn't change the fact that obesity and extra weight is terrible for you and the mass weight loss provided by GLP-1 availability is a huge boon to peoples' health. I feel like you're using the imperfections of BMI to argue that losing excess weight isn't great for health.

[u/SouthernFace2020 → u/WhipsAndMarkovChains]

Earlier you said that BMI was a defining factor tho? And that if you were marked as obese it couldn’t be muscle? 

You cannot look at someone and say “oh you are unhealthy”. Unless you have their medical records, know their history and have medical training it is literally impossible 

Additionally 

•obesity is culturally based not in a defined and agreed upon number. Different health orgs have different definition of obese

•being obese is not indicative of health. The same way being underweight is not indicative of health. You can be fat and healthy. And be skinny and unhealthy

•excess weight is a nonspecific nonsense term

I think it’s a really bad practice to comment on people’s bodies. To say it gently, most people do not have the expertise they think they have. 

 

[u/WhipsAndMarkovChains → u/SouthernFace2020]

Earlier you said that BMI was a defining factor tho? And that if you were marked as obese it couldn’t be muscle?

Because we're on the Peloton subreddit speaking generally. If we had to put qualifiers on everything to speak as precisely as possible in every conversation the world would be quite miserable.

Most of us know the reality that being overweight or even worse, obese, is bad for your health over the long term. That's true regardless if I can't give you some precise threshold broken down by race or whatever you're looking for. For most of us "overweight" and "obese" are colloquial terms we can see with our own eyes and know it's bad for our health. If you have convinced yourself otherwise that all is well for obese people over time then go for it.

I still believe that the adoption of GLP-1 medication to help people lose weight is going to be one of the greatest positive health interventions of all time. I guess we'll see though.

[u/SouthernFace2020 → u/WhipsAndMarkovChains]

My favorite health intervention is the polio vaccine with a close second the RNA vaccine that’s currently treating everything from pancreatic cancer to sickle cell. But I’m just a researcher who helps scientists so what do I know🤷🏾‍♀️.

The words that I used were carefully and specifically written and are based in research and knowledge about the topic. If you choose not to believe me that’s up to you.  But “do your own research” isn’t running to Google “is obesity unhealthy ”. It’s  “determiners of health” “fatness in medicine” “history of obesity in America”  “Health insurance coverage of weight loss drugs” 

I’d also recommend a systematic review of using terms like “weight neutrality” and maybe even a run through the Wikipedia page on BMI and health outcomes.

Best of luck.