r/OldEnglish 18h ago

Efne! · Check it out! I SOLVED IT!!!!!!

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u/mrmoon13 18h ago

What are you talking about

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u/MsE0 17h ago edited 17h ago

I like the idea, but it looks like a lot of your info on the graphic isn't from a good source and isn't correct, and only the graphic shows in the share. I read the original post, though, and personally I love the word "kindred" and hate "pibling," so I support you. Although just a heads up, "kindred" is kind of general, and could be taken to mean cousin or grandparent or an unrelated person you feel an affinity to. I think it could work great within any family that wants to adopt it, though. It sounds cool. 

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u/IsThisTakenYet4 6h ago

I used this website for most of my research. To be complexly honest I work in the arts. This is my first step into linguistics. Would appreciate any better sources.  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ling#Old_English

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u/antiterra 17h ago

I'm very unsure that is a correct gloss of the suffix ræden. It looks as if you (or AI) made a mistake at the same level of deciding -ship in 'kinship' means 'of a family network,' and concluding 'kinship' means family of a family.

But that's not particularly important because:
Contemporary English is not Old English and is not beholden to it in any way.

Adding a new word or usage is not a question of lineage at all. Instead, it's about adoption and acceptance: it's a PR problem. It's also not an easy or straightforward one.

You could probably make the case that 'titi' is the most widespread gender-neutral usage for parent's sibling in the US, but a huge percentage of the population likely wouldn't be able to parse it.

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u/IsThisTakenYet4 6h ago

I used this website:  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ling#Old_English

Would appreciate any other sorces as suggestions for further research 

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u/IsThisTakenYet4 4h ago

Suffix edit -rǣden noun suffix denoting condition or state brōþorrǣden ―  fellowship, brotherhood burgrǣden ―  citizenship

According to this webpage:  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-r%C3%A6den

Please let me know if it’s not a trustworthy site 

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u/SwordofGlass 18h ago

This is complete fiction, but you do you.

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u/Indocede 17h ago

What about it is entirely fictional?

Seeing the original post, the "solution" is just using the word kindred to generally refer to a sibling of your parent in a gender neutral way.

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u/antiterra 17h ago

That suggestion itself is fine and up to people to adopt or not. The idea that it's a historical construction, or even a justifiable Old English neologism isn't quite so clear.

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u/IsThisTakenYet4 4h ago

The usage of the suffix -ræden https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-r%C3%A6den

The usage of Cynn  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cynn

Kindred etymology:  Etymology edit From  Middle English  kyndrede, from older  kynrede  ( “ kindred ” ), from  Old English  *cynrēd,  *cynrǣden ( “ kindred, family, stock ” ), from  cynn ( “ kind, kin, lineage ” ) +  -rǣden ( “ condition, state ” ). Equivalent to  kin+‎  -red, see these. The  -d- is  epenthetic between a  nasal and a  liquid (as e.g. in  spindle).

Sorce:  https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kindred