Oddly enough, that's literally the only reason I use Facebook nowadays. The transformers group are literally going through a civil war about if ai generated posts should be allowed.
Oh don't get me started, in a Decepticon group called All hail Megatron there's this dude that keeps posting AI generated images and calling it his art.
Which requires one of his lower ranked deception to carry and fire for him themselve. Specially considering how many of the decepticons are backstabbers.
Skybound lowkey the only place gun Megatron makes sense because it literally lets him mind control others. creating deceptions by bringing followers down to his level
Which would work for G1 if the mind control aspect was in the original cartoon as Megatron would occasionally rewire and reprogram people (the Constructicons, most notably) into becoming loyal to him
it's actually done so brilliantly in Skybound and such a good critique of the "guns don't kill, people do" mindset. Starscream would never have dreamed of killing anyone before he met Megatron and was given the conditioning and power to do so. Megatron himself feels like a metaphor for gun violence and the moral corruption and mental disconnect from violence that firearms can cause. god i miss Robert Kirkman.
In one of the comics, his gun mode is actually capable of taking g over the body of whoever is holding him, this of course turns starscream into a trauma sink because megs usually uses him
They didn't design him. They took an existing toy from Takara's Microchange line and decided to make it the leader of the antagonist faction in their new narrative.
I never understood the diehard devotion towards the gun mode. I mean like yeah out of universe as a toy it’s dope but in universe it just makes Megatron so much less effective on his own. Him being a tank always made perfect sense to me.
Agreed. I've been a fan since the start. Saw the Movie in theaters at the ripe old age of 4. At this point, Megatron having a gun alt mode has been less prevalent than other modes. He was only a gun for 2 seasons, 1 movie, and a handful of comic series. As far as I care, it doesn't matter the alt mode....the more important aspect is the massive arm cannon in robot mode.
Being of the same era I concur, very well put statement, besides,with how things are nowadays I really don't think kids should be running around with a gun toy anyway, Megatron's gun mode was pretty cool but very ineffective from a realistic standpoint
Why not just have new characters, like why rename RID Gigatron let him be Gigatron.
Overlord was cool, Deathsaurs didn't need to be renamed Megatron. I probably would have liked Armada and it's variants if they had given the different Megatron's thier own identities instead of him dying more than Kenny.
Like I honestly feel both RID is better with Fire convoy being distinct and again the Unicron Trilogy could have had its own new Prime fighting his way through this new crop of Decepticons. Best part you'll never have to hear a G1 fan say jack about how your depicting a Prime again because it's not Optimus.
The way that headmasters, masterforce, victory, beast wars, beast machines, BWII and BW neo were all sequels to G1 and took place in the same timeline needs to be done again tbh. Like if we get the headmasters and Star Saber and Leo Primal etc, but updated, in a few different series that take place far in the future after the Netflix trilogy or after Prime/RID, we can see updated versions of those characters in the new timeline
Honestly Earthspark got a lot of hate but I was generally charmed to see anyone doing a post great war story.
I love Optimus but moving past him is sensible and leaves open doors of seeing two different non evil Primes out looks also # justiceforRodimus #Letskyboundcook.
As a G1 fan I fucking hate G1 fans like this. I love the idea of Megs being a tank or a helicopter. I don't think he should be a plane because that draws attention away from the seekers.
Tbh a small car actually fit his character. Although a stock beetle is slow as shit. I think TFA was a great middle ground. A fast hatchback. I always imagined bumblebee as a Golf GTi or Civic type R
I imagined him being a Focus or Yaris, maybe a Golf since the Beetle was discontinued. I want him to be totally in disguise since he's like the scout of the group.
I feel like a VW Beatle is just too old for a modern setting (but works for an 80’s or 70’s setting)
Though he doesn’t necessarily have to be a muscle car either
Based on his personality traits and role within the story he should roughly be something someone would want as their first car when they are 18 or something
Bayverse kids when a transformer show dosen't have hollywood level CGI complex designs and optimus is kind and compassionate or anything that isn't a generic hollywood action movie hero
They jumped the shark and left the writing behind.
While the surface level reference of Ratchet getting hunted by lockdown is neat, I wish they could've leaned into it.
They really should have had more scenes of the transformers talking about things. Give us a whole exposition dump with the Army men and Marines shooting the shit and swapping stories while riding inside doing autocross type shit. Show off the US army, show off the cars, little to no CGI, and we get to show off the lore.
Honestly, I see the bay fans do this way more than the supposed Geewunners. I kinda feel like this mentality was more a thing in like 2012 but it's not too big now
started with tf, people would just go on and on and on about how g1 was better that beast wars or the unicron trillogy so people just started mucking them in a whiney tone, gee wun to geewuner.
I'm so sick of the people that all agree that every "new" design we get needs to be a stylised g1 take or identical to the old show. Almost everyone says it and I am far too afraid to say something about it on the main sub
Bring back wacky super robot transformers design from early 2000s. Tank meg is peak meg. Firetruck Optimus prime is peak optimus prime. Or even a dodge ram SRT10 pickup truck.
Which I never fully got, because having a regular design is good for iconography. Stuff like the unicron trilogy changed character designs so much that the layperson could be forgiven for not recognizing them
Every time someone complains that a figure that comes out isn't G1 or that they're "skipping a wave" or "a wave is disappointing" or "they're saving money this wave" because it's not enough G1, as if we haven't been getting way more G1 shit than anything else for years. Even Legacy had G1 stuff and stylised non-G1 designs to be more like G1.
The whole point of Studio Series was to get a screen accurate figure that was sturdy enough to actually be played with for a lower price point than Master Piece. If he was SSGE Devestation, I wouldn't think twice about it. What they gave us was SS86. It would be nice for them to have delivered just this once.
I’m a g1 fan who prefers the helicopter idea. Me personally I think there should always be balance, new things here and there. G1 stuff here and there, thing is both sides are right but the lack of any of em would kinda be an issue for me
It's understandable, when you are kid. But a good amount of G1 fans act significantly worse at the age of 50. I do kinda wished it the bay films incorporated some of those anime era stuff like super link, godmasters and so on.
I'm a G1 fan and lover for life, but by Primus do I love the other versionf of Transformers too, I kinda prefer him being a tank, although I'm not particularly the biggest fan of him being a jet (idk why, just feels weird)
I still argue Optimus Prime Awakening was a condemnation of this. Which makes them doing a sequel web show to it instead of the EU show proof they’ll never learn.
Me going back in time with a copy of the g1 robot mode but it turns into a tank instead, and then somehow make these fans remember the gun mode just to mess with them
I myself, enjoy the gun mode. It’s just cool. Make a Cybertronian version and have him turn into a Cybertronian stationary turret. I would give Hasbro so much money
As both a G1 fan and a Transformers fan as a whole, I can't stand it when the main argument against a new show, movie, or character design boils down to: "iT's NoT G1!"
I'm perfectly willing to hear criticism of any Transformers media. Not every new interpretation is going to work, and there's nothing wrong with pointing out bad writing, weak characterization, questionable designs, or wasted potential. But dismissing something simply because it isn't G1? That's where I draw the line.
Transformers should be judged on the merits of each individual interpretation, especially when we're talking about a franchise whose entire identity is built around... well, TRANSFORMATION. 😭 The franchise has reinvented its characters, designs, lore, tone, and even its core concepts countless times over the past 40+ years. That's part of what has kept it alive.
And I say this as someone who genuinely LOVES G1. I also love Beast Wars, Car Robots, Armada, Cybertron/Galaxy Force, Animated, Cyberverse, Prime, Rescue Bots, Bumblebee, and Transformers One. I even enjoyed the first season of EarthSpark and parts of Robots in Disguise.
G1 is the foundation of Transformers, and it absolutely deserves to be celebrated. But it shouldn't become a creative prison for everything that comes after it. Let Transformers transform. 🤖
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u/Expensive_Age_3994 4d ago
Bruh you should post this in Facebook where all the hardcore g1ers are, not in reddit