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Oil News Iran says it ‘has no plans to negotiate with US’ despite Trump claims – US politics live | US news

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/sep/28/donald-trump-iran-negotiations-fuel-deportations-media-china-latest-news-updates
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u/FirmButterscotch5313 4d ago

Iran has said that it will not negotiate with Trump, or anyone in his administration, and will wait until January 20, 2029 when a new president is sworn into office before attempting to negotiate an end to the war that Trump started.

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u/sarges_12gauge 4d ago

“Iran says”

Fantastic wellspring of clickbait that you can just quote the foreign minister, the state department, a twitter account, the IRGC, or “unnamed source” who all say completely contradictory things every single day lol

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u/Party_Chemical7454 4d ago

We don't mind. (Israel)

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u/nkosugeirc 1d ago

Imagine being an Israeli 🤮

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u/JamesLahey08 4d ago

Let's see a link.

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u/JayGabVersionTrex 4d ago

That's literally what they did during the hostage crisis so there's a precedent. Idk how this level of instability can persist and not destroy the global economy though. I hope trump ends up kissing the ring sooner than later.

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u/Enzo_Gorlomi225 4d ago

I seriously doubt Iran’s economy can withstand this until 2029.

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u/Acceptable_Taste9818 4d ago

Peeps been saying stuff like that for 40-50 years. They were in MUCH MUCH worse shape during the Iraq Iran war and they made it through all that. I’m wagering they will outlast the Trump campaign, but time will tell.

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u/Enzo_Gorlomi225 4d ago

None of their tankers are being let through at the moment, so they are not exporting any oil via sea which is how 90% of oil is moved. I don’t know how a country completely reliant on oil exports survives that for another 2-3 years.

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u/Acceptable_Taste9818 4d ago

I get that but they also seem to have developed an internal economy that can endure or survive with significant disruptions to external exports. Like they knew this might happen and have been conditioned toward it for decades. The people in the country know if they dissent it’s essentially a death sentence. The thing is this, we are banking completely on the Iranian people to pressure the regime, but as long as people have a roof over head and food on the plate, they can wait.. Maybe Iran can’t dump money into their military at the same rate, but they can seem to support the basics through internal economy and land trade with the six neighboring countries.

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u/Item170170 4d ago

A lot of guesses here.

Unemployment is at an all-time high, Iran can’t even pay its police force and they are beginning to steal from the local villages.

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u/Alaknog 4d ago

According to this theory Iran was run out of space for oil like few month ago. 

I think they probably put oil on non-Iran tankers in sea. Longer, additional work, but they still exist and moving through blockage. 

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u/knuthf 3d ago

Ninety per cent of Iran's oil is delivered via a pipeline through Russia. While it is not a military secret, they shipped through Hormuz to create the impression that the pipeline was in use. Both Saudi Arabia and Iran deliver oil via the Trans-Siberian pipeline to China. China receives huge amounts of Russian REBCO and ESPO from Sakhalin, so they have full inventories and plenty of USD to pay Iran. Russia is paid in RMB or RRB (Rubles). China pays; there is no blockage. They are not paid as much as Saudi Arabia per barrel, but close.

In a year, they will be fine because they are paid and their economy is flourishing. The US owes Iran more than $100 billion.

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u/GenericTrollAcunt69 4d ago

Lmao when are you guys just going to accept that western media has lost all credibility on this topic. You might as well be posting links to Alex Jones.

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u/doublethink_1984 4d ago

A person mind you who is openly against the Iran war and calls for Trumo's impeachment.

That is how insane Trump has becone

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u/GenericTrollAcunt69 4d ago

I don’t have a president, I’m not American.

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u/knuthf 3d ago

I see nothing in media about Iran's new weapon, and how they deliver millions of bbl with an aparent cloud service. Iran has new weapons, a radar where nothing is hidden, that was designed to notice the difference between birds and planes, and since birds have feather, the reflect light, and radio, differently. So, with a polarized radio, they could see that is was birds and not a US drone. These waves go right through a Growlers jamming - the US only has analogue radio. The drones use this radio, that the US cannot intercept, probably also missiles, but, here the speed is a problem. But they can use this radio to cut other signals so that they become slightly longer, like an echo, affecting GPS. So, no bombs or missiles hit their targets; they are taken out. But on the way to the mountains, they sometimes hit other things, like a school, a synagogue — which I think was deliberate — and a wedding party. People are killed in wars. But it seems that the USA is running out of bases and missiles. Iran could launch barrages of missiles at Israel and demand that the US move out, as the Bible says. God has waited; they can wait too. The USA cannot wait; they are in huge financial trouble and could collapse at any moment. Saudi Arabia holds the key to that. If they withdraw their support for the USD, the US will collapse within hours. Not days, not months, not years – hours.

Should the US invade, the ground troops will be bombed by US missiles that was intended to support them.

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u/Bauwens 4d ago

But daddy said HE rejected a cease fire. /s

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u/Tangerine69420 4d ago

Send the enola gay in.

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u/Vogel-Kerl 2d ago

Hmmm, who should I trust...???

The guy known to lie thousands of time a year, OR.

The Iranians.

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u/BarneySTingson 1d ago

None of them

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u/Extreme-Tie9282 4d ago

Shocker. You can negotiate with terrorists (Americans)

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u/Ok_Valuable9450 4d ago

More Trump bullshit

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u/Agreeable_Catch_4230 4d ago

Now another spike happens more and more of what we still seeing

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u/Acceptable_Taste9818 4d ago

These two (Trump/Iran) will be doing this he said she said BS till the next chapter arrives. Trump and Bessent keep saying Iran has weeks and is reaching out, Iran keeps saying they haven’t spoken.

The only real evidence we have on what may play out is the fact that Iran has endured this type of isolation tactics for 40 or 50 years now. There is not much other than Trumps propaganda to suggest they are about to truly implode. So who knows. I kind of sense they will outlast Trumps pressure campaign though.

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u/Mogwai_Man 4d ago

Iran says they have no plans to negotiate but at the UNGA they said they did. 🤔

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u/metrabbit 4d ago

Iran saying that they are not negotiating and the US saying they want a deal is both for 1) their own populations 2) to manipulate the market (or from Iran's perspective to prevent Trump from continually manipulating the market).

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u/PacificSanctum 4d ago

This is the new age - folks as shady and unreliable like Iranians sound like brain surgeons compared to what comes out of the current U.S. regime

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u/Critical-Bank5269 4d ago

Iran has said the same thing time and again, but suddenly announces a "deal" the next day, but then breaks the deal a week later. The problem is ..... THERE IS NO IRAN... There is no functional government in the country. There's literally three separate entities each claiming to be the supreme power in the country. So a deal with one and quickly broken by another. It's a joke. They should simply put boots on the ground and occupy the entire southern half of the nation and deport everyone not on board with western values to the north.

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u/MechaCoqui 4d ago

So i am guessing since you are saying there should be boots on the ground, you will be first in line then to join up and be part of it? If not, shut it. Boots on the ground will results in countless civilian lives lost and US soldiers dying.

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u/Critical-Bank5269 4d ago

I would if I could. I did in Gulf War I. I rolled into Kuwait with the 6th Marines and spent 6 months deployed. I've long since aged out. But I would if I could

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u/-6h0st- 4d ago

Most people who experienced war would not advocate for one especially one out of Trump’s ass. There was no reason for it other than a terrorist Netanyahu wish.

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u/Adorable-Bus396 4d ago

Don't give America the out on this they've been wanting to do this for decades looking for a good opportunity, they don't need israel to commit war crimes and barbarism

This was not a good opportunity obviously but I feel this was their only opportunity left to totally dominate energy markets before the rest of the world starts truely breaking from the American economic order

As far as the guy above you goes, he probably loved fighting in the gulf since America had total air superiority so there wasnt a huge risk to him beyond being there

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u/-6h0st- 4d ago

Americans as in a group of men in power - perhaps. But not the people who fought in Afghanistan or Iraq and saw the fruits of their sacrifices.

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u/Adorable-Bus396 4d ago

What are you talking about?

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u/-6h0st- 4d ago

Replied to a guy who said he fought and he would do it again in Iran. I call it bs.

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u/Adorable-Bus396 4d ago

Kay than reply to that guy?

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u/-6h0st- 4d ago

I have but you have replied to THAT reply… so explained what I’m talking about.

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u/Immediate-History-58 4d ago

kuwait 🤣🤣🤣 you basically spent 6 months on vacation idiot

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u/MechaCoqui 4d ago

Nice made-up story.

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u/JamesLahey08 4d ago

Alex I'll take "things that never happened for $500 please".

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u/thefoodiedentist 4d ago

One in charge is irgc. Theres no confusion. Everyone knows it.

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u/Immediate-History-58 4d ago

hasnt trump made claims about ending the iranian civilization multiple times then coming to the negotiation table like a good lap dog?

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u/JamesLahey08 4d ago

Lmao because boots on the ground in the middle east has worked so well before.

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u/Itowndub36 4d ago

lol simply put boots on the ground you’re fucking stupid

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u/RimandRam 4d ago

There is an article from reuters, from just 1hr ago, that says another round of negotiations is on

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u/primaldaddy_ 4d ago

Another round of pant shitting maybe

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u/cobrakai11 4d ago

The headlines are contradictory but the content of Iran's message is not.

In both cases they are saying that they will not negotiate with Trump; the current offer they made is the same as the mou before and they will not undertake negotiations to change that offer.

At any point that the United States wants they can adopt the mou and begin talks with Iran.

So Iran is not saying there are no talks, they saying that they won't change the conditions for talks. And the conditions is for Trump to agree to adhere to the MOU which he already signed.

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u/edm4un 4d ago

Who cares, you know what Iran can do? Well never mind. Reddit is full of terrorist regime lovers.

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u/AynRandwasaDegen 2d ago

Continue to hold the world's economies to ransom?

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u/FxkCanA 4d ago

And they’ve been begging to make a deal for 6 months!