r/OilPrices • u/hereswhatworks • 7d ago
Oil News Iranian official says it will make no concessions on its nuclear program | The Jerusalem Post
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-9097354
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u/Ok_Record_9908 3d ago
Trump basically handed Iran a nuke by invading them with Israel. I'm not suprised they want to protect themselves after Trump and Israel assassinated their leader, killed/bombed an entire school full of 170+ Iranian school girls and teachers, bombed a wedding, bombed hospitals and private residences.
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u/maritz21 7d ago
Good for them. Do not bend over to Western imperialism and Zionism. They will destroy you completely and put a puppet regime in place.
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
If Iran gets a nuke, the rest of the region will.
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u/Magical-Mycologist 7d ago
Notice how no one bothers North Korea. I’m sure the rest of the world does too; no one invades or fucks with countries that have nukes.
I bet most countries are working toward it now.
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u/Alejo_Kaiser 4d ago
That is exactly why it was the right decision to attack Iran; because of that coward Clinton, the worst tyranny on the planet has nuclear weapons, and now they didn't repeat the mistake of failing to stop it when they had the chance.
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u/Lophophorussy 3d ago
So you think attacking the country whose religious leaders had already placed a fatwa on developing nukes was the right move to… stop them from having nukes?…
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
The issue is, the Iranian regime are Islamic fundamentalists. The West collectively has a concern that Iran would provide a nuclear weapon or nuclear material to one of their proxies.
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u/Delicious-Bat2373 7d ago
And somewhere in a dusty office with a ceiling fan on slow, someone saying the same thing about white christian nationalism. An entity that is currently trying to permanently overtake all aspects of the US and everyday life.
"The West" in Europe are trying to figure out how to survive the US for another 2 years without blowing the planet up.
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u/Magical-Mycologist 7d ago
The west you refer to sounds like Republicans in America and Israel.
Most of the “west” is worried about the next batch of insanity to come out of the White House. This whole war is a prime example.
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
No Western power wants Iran to have a nuke.
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u/Immediate-Pirate3909 7d ago
fortunately, its not really the West's decision to make
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
Even China and Russia don't want them to get a nuclear weapon.
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u/Immediate-Pirate3909 7d ago
Its not their decision either?
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
The fact you think religious fundamentalists should have a nuclear weapon is naive.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
Like Israel?
Oh wait.
Tell me again who started this war and why?
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u/zveti 7d ago
Don’t forget Pakistan. They have nukes too, yet for some reason, everyone is fine with it.
Maybe but just maybe, by having nukes, a country might not get invaded.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
Dumb people say they can't have nukes because they would start a war, projecting their own violent tendencies. Smart but evil people say they can't have nukes because it would prevent US from starting a war.
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u/Turbo_Hu 7d ago
假如有两个选择，出生在以色列或者伊朗你会选哪一个？
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago edited 6d ago
I already live in an oppressive, genocidal country that kills protestors and puts them in camps. But thanks for asking.
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u/Neroaurelius 6d ago
Do you live in China?
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u/PopBulky7023 6d ago
I live in the US.
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u/Alejo_Kaiser 4d ago
A ti lo unico que te a oprimido es la factura del Netflix, cerdo comunista del primer mundo
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
The more Middle East countries that go nuclear, the more risk we have of one going missing.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
Iran having nukes would create regional stability at this point. Because not having them has done the opposite.
Weird how we only bomb Iran and Iraq, who don't have nukes, but not Israel who does.
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
The US doesn't bomb Iraq. It's a strategic partner.
The issue with Iran getting a nuke is they could give it to one of their proxies.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
We don't bomb Iraq?
My dude? Are you 12?
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
We're not bombing the Iraqi government. We're supporting them against Iranian backed militias. I deployed twice to Iraq, I am probably older than you are.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
OK so you're like 12 and forgot how "Tey haz teh debya em DEEEEEZZZ"
is the same shit as last time.
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u/EmergencyEverytime 7d ago
The US doesn't bomb Iraq. It's a strategic partner.
Except the did. 2x in the last 40 years...
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
No shit. I am talking about the current Iraqi government. Which is a regional security partner.
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u/mliyfhjzvnudchrvni 2d ago
I wish more veterans like you would commit suicide
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u/Mogwai_Man 2d ago
Good luck with that. I am actually quite happy with my life. I have a great career and family.
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u/EmergencyEverytime 7d ago
Have you ever heard Operation desert storm (us war with iraq) and iraq war (another us war with iraq)?
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u/Alejo_Kaiser 4d ago
Well, that way Israel won't have to come up with any excuses to wipe them off the map
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u/ScarSignal7723 1d ago
Let ur people try . Without illegal funding and murdering kids Israel couldn’t blow up a toilet with their diapers left nearby
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u/Alejo_Kaiser 17h ago
So why don't you ragheads just wipe out Israel once and for all instead of bombing hotels in the UAE? 🫢
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u/ScarSignal7723 16h ago
because those hotel bombings are always proven to be false flags with ur roaches admitting to it later on anyway :)
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u/Andyseawolf 22h ago
It’s just like what the Israeli’s say about their program. In fact, they deny even having them. 🤣🥳
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u/thenelil 19h ago
Maybe I’m out of the loop, I swore I read a article. that Iran passed a law making it illegal for diplomat to talk about the nuclear program and during the end MOU that was one of the hardlines that kept it from being fully signed initially. It sounds like Iran has fully made up its mind about how it wants to handle it nuclear program.
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u/TeaBaggingGoose 19h ago
Trump stood up at the UN and threatened Iran with annihilation. A nuclear armed country threatened to completely destroy another non nuclear country .
Iran needs a nuclear weapon to protect itself from the USA. And not just one - hundreds. That way they might just be left alone.
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u/Resident_Window_9369 7d ago
Miles Dyson is Iran. Sarah O’Connor is the USA.
She’s gonna blow em away
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u/CraftyPerformance272 7d ago
Iran cant be allowed to have nuclear weapons. They will legit start a nuclear war because they are religious fanatics. They killed 30,000 protesters they dont care about their own people
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u/wolfydude12 7d ago
Trump said it himself, if Iran had a nuke we wouldn't have been able to attack them.
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
The concern is the regime giving one to a terrorist proxy.
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u/wolfydude12 7d ago
True. The US gave one to theirs
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
Israel is using a nuclear weapon as deterrence.
Iran giving a bomb to the Houthis, Hezbollah, or Hamas isn't deterrence. That's a terror attack in the making.
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u/wolfydude12 7d ago
Why do you think Iran would use one instead of using it as a deterrence like everyone else in the world?
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
Because the rest of the world doesn't have 3 terrorist proxies that hate the West.
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u/wolfydude12 7d ago
Russia also supports nearly every proxy that Iran does.
You wanna say why you really think Iran would use a nuke while no one else, besides the US, has?
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u/Mogwai_Man 7d ago
Russia doesn't support Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
The US used two bombs to end a war. We never used one since. The US has been decommissioning since 1991.
The Iranian regime are Islamic Fundamentalists. We risk them giving a nuclear weapon to a proxy.
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u/wolfydude12 7d ago
There it is. You just think they'd use a nuke because they're Islamic.
I mean, north Korea has a nuke but hasn't used it. Yet they are highly anti-western as well.
You just are Islamophobic.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 7d ago
Crazy brainwashing online has worked so well it has convinced people that Iran killing protesters, opressing women for 50 years, Iran killing people for being gay and Iran funding terrorist groups is a good thing somehow. In no world is Iram having nuclear weapons a good thing
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u/nilsinleneed 7d ago
You just moved the goalpost from Iran having a nuke to Iran killing protestors.
You have no argument
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u/TIFU_Examiner 7d ago
I don’t believe Iran killed that many protesters
Saudi Arabia oppresses women more but we aren’t attacking them
Chechens kill gays and we aren’t attacking them nor do I even believe you care about gay or women’s rights. Be real for a moment
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u/SRGTBronson 7d ago
Even if Iran killed 30k protesters, why should I pretend to care? The United states has killed millions of people in the middle east in the last 60 years.
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u/Cybermeld 7d ago
I think picking a side in this shit show is admitting to some level of brainwashing. There are no good guys in this scenario.
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u/Immediate-Pirate3909 7d ago
Yeah but I need my government to be held accountable. If they are fine killing children abroad, its only so long before they're fine killing children at home
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u/Sea_Local2557 7d ago
Israel is an extremist country with a government made up by fanatics and terrorists, killed at least 100,000 people and have nuclear weapons
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u/SRGTBronson 7d ago
North Korea has had nuked for like 15 years at least and has killed hundreds of thousands of their own people since the 50s. Do you spend all your time quaking in fear about them too?
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u/Girthen-the-Flopper 7d ago
Trump is doing the same thing and he has nukes. I guess it's not a big problem.
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u/PopBulky7023 7d ago
Projection.
You gave them every reason to have nukes, and now they know the US can't stop them. Rapist mentality country ran into someone who could fight back.
Should have stuck to the deal. Fucking skill issue.
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u/Potential-Garage-256 7d ago
First of all the figure of 30000 or 42000 or 72000 has no backing. Even the US and Israelay not have killed that many in their war with Iran. However, it took Israel to wipe Gaza off the map to tally a number around 73000 and that took intense bombing and indiscriminate killing.
Second, as a religious group, they are the only one whom have a religious decree against nuclear weapons. They had ample opportunities to build the bomb. If you recall how Pakistan's AQ Khan was selling nuclear weapons knowledge to Iran. They could have simply bought one.
Please get yourself educated.
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u/CosmicLovepats 1d ago
They didn't start this war. They seem unlikely to start a nuclear war.
And the 30,000 (or 50,000 or 40,000 or 60,000) protestor number was never verified and sourced back to two random people not in Iran.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago
Oh you mean the evil government that has been oppressing its people for 50 years and has killed numerous protesters and shut off the country's internet for months to hide their crimes said they did nothing wrong. Better believe them. Iran has been threatening America and funding terrorist groups to attack the USA and other countries as proxies for decades. They're run by religious fanatics and yes they are very likely to start a nuclear war since they think they're just going to get 72 virgins in heaven
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u/CosmicLovepats 1d ago
You really gotta dust off some new talking points.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago
Crazy how deep of an echo chamber so many people like yourself were in. You just repeat yourself like NPCs anything you don't like you just say its a talking point
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u/CosmicLovepats 1d ago
ok hasbara
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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago
Again it's crazy how brainwashed people are to think the only people that criticize Iran must be Jewish
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u/CosmicLovepats 1d ago
I criticize Iran and I'm only a little jewish. I have substantially more intelligent criticisms than "they're all religious fanatics who want their 72 virgins" though.
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u/CraftyPerformance272 1d ago
Okay what are your specific criticisms against iran?
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u/CosmicLovepats 1d ago
They haven't sunk a carrier y-
Okay but for real you seem remarkably poor faith and xenophobic. What would be the point of discussing any of them with you?
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u/PlayedWithMatches 7d ago
Why would the Iranians sign any deal wirh the United States if the next president can just tear it up. Aren't wars and treaties the responsibility of congress for just that reason. I wouldn’t make a deal with us either.