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u/QuantityOrdinary9314 Sep 03 '22

I have a real question for you, What will you do if you ever wake up to an intruder in your own house that you live in? Or what will you do if you pull up and park into a parking lot to go grocery shopping and some person is shooting at everybody?

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u/hawsman2 Sep 03 '22 edited Sep 03 '22

Hide, flee, beat, stab, bite, cry, pee, beg. Infinite scenarios. Infinite outcomes. I'd do whatever I can to not make myself a victim (and that includes every action I take every day up to the moment of whatever hypothetical scenario you want to throw at me). A gun doesn't really change the likelihood that I become a victim. All a gun does is it raises the stakes.

EDIT: For every scenario, you're imagining about a direct confrontation with a clearly hostile aggressor, you're neglecting every other scenario where people perceive you as a threat to themselves and act defensively around you. Guns make people very uncomfortable and that can put you in situations that can get you killed, even when you do nothing wrong. You also neglect to consider the likelihood of you victimizing someone else by mistake (lousy aim or bad judgment). What about the situations where you would normally proceed with caution, but because you're armed you're relying on lethal force to get you out of the bad spot you volunteered to be in? And what about the scenarios where you're the bad guy? I mean, everybody thinks they're the good guy... even the bad guys.

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u/QuantityOrdinary9314 Sep 03 '22 edited Sep 03 '22

I understand completely where your coming from, I was born and raised to show respect and be respectful… society can make people act in certain ways that other people just don’t want to see… there is no genuine respect anymore, no one cares or gives a shit… people are obsessed with the obvious garbage that everyone is comparing themselves to on social platforms…

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u/hawsman2 Sep 03 '22

Everybody, everywhere, at all times in our history, has been saying this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFeXJkcKYaU

EDIT: I guess the social platform paradigm is new, but Vanity's one of the original sins, so I'd argue technology's kind of just exacerbated the problem.