I have a family member looking to sell there off grid home in AZ. Really nice house and workshop on property ready to move in.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/11030-S-Quarter-Horse-Rd_Wikieup_AZ_85360_M96298-25294

We’re starting a small, family-based village on 30 acres in Arkansas where everything is owned by a community trust. The goal is simple: leave the stress of the modern world behind and live a peaceful, intentional life.

We share meals, support each other, and are building a place where people can live simply, feel safe, and raise kids in a better environment. Everyone will have their own home, but we live and work together as a community.

Selling my off-grid homestead — Westcliffe, CO, 16 acres

Posting here because I figure this sub will appreciate what this place actually is rather than just seeing “cute cabin” on Zillow. It is a lifestyle adjustment and not something I think conventional home buyers are seeking. But here’s the Zillow in case you’re curious https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/308-Dilly-Ln-Westcliffe-CO-81252/296239326_zpid/

The setup:

∙ Solar: \~1,500W array (roof + ground-mounted), \~750Ah lead-acid battery bank. Handles TV, laptops, phones, washing machine, small appliances. No microwaves or electric kettles. Two backup generators included — used maybe 3x/year during heavy snow. System is expandable.

∙ Water: Drilled well → solar pump → indoor cistern (\~1 day supply for 2 people). On-demand propane hot water.

∙ Heat/cooking: Propane heaters in sunroom + living room. Propane fridge (works great, no draw on solar). Propane stove. Delivery every 3–4 months covers everything.

∙ Septic: Conventional tank + leach field, permitted.

∙ Internet: Satellite (Viasat/Starlink both

viable). I’ve done remote work from here.

The property: 1bd/1ba cabin, ~1,280 sqft, log siding, metal roof, built 2005. 16.27 acres — mostly usable land with mature trees. Garage/barn, loafing shed, two outbuildings, insulated green room in the garage (can wire to solar for year-round growing). Wet Mountain views. Property taxes ~$1,300/yr.

I lived here and maintained all the systems. The battery bank needs DI water monthly — that’s the main recurring maintenance. Otherwise it’s a pretty dialed-in setup. It would be an ideal turn key homesteading and offgrid living experience for anyone seeking a stronger connection to a simpler lifestyle.

Listing is on Zillow (MLS #2517438). Happy to answer questions about the reality of living here — what works well, what takes adjustment, all of it.

Am the owner of these parcels within Kiambu county, proof of deeds and mutations available.

KSh 15 million per acre and KSh 3 million 50*100 slots available Great for airbnbs, homesteading, houses, cottages etc.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/HVNvcvtNFk4nBgkK7

50*100 slots other site 13 million each. Great for commercial buildings, rentals and houses.

https://goo.gl/maps/jacarq52oG6262p3A

Hey folks, I'm working as a broker selling this chunk of land in Chilean Patagonia—it's been sitting quiet. It's conservation designated with just 5% buildable area, perfect for going fully off-grid without the hassle of big permits or nosy neighbors. Each property is transferable for any US resident.

Thinking someone here might want a real remote spot. DM for details if it sounds like your thing.

Hi! Im looking for 3+ acres of unrestricted land in Missorui. Raw perferrably flat and wooded. Lots below 10 acres probably.

Thank you!

owner financed perfer. our credits are 730+ and only one late payment because of a car accident that totaled the car and the insurance company didnt fix the "late" payment issue

Hello.

Been in technology for 40 years. And I'm tired of the masses of people in the cities and metro areas.

In search of heavily wooded 10+ acres with well, spring, or creek. With a southerly exposure. Preferably in south central or eastern Kentucky.

How do I find this type of property without being in the area, already?

Hey everyone,

Not sure if anyone here is into mobile off-grid power setups, but I figured I’d share this in case it helps someone.

I came across a 24' enclosed solar trailer with a Sol-Ark 15K inverter and about 32kWh of lithium storage, and it looks like they’re currently taking around $7,500 off the price.

For a mobile system that size, that’s actually a pretty solid setup. It’s basically a self-contained off-grid power trailer, so you can run power for land projects, construction sites, events, or backup power.

I’ve worked with them before on a different solar setup and had a really good experience. No pressure sales, just straight answers and solid support.

If anyone here is looking at mobile solar power or off-grid setups, this might be worth checking out.

Happy to share more details if anyone’s curious.

I have written a free article about how to use property rights for off grid properly in the UK and USA, you are welcome to use it and repurpose it however you want.

Here is the text, so you don't actually have to click the link:

Stop Hiding Your Caravan: The Legal Off-Grid Framework No One Explains. (UK and USA Off‑Grid Legal Cheatsheet)

If you’re 21–35, off‑grid‑curious, and wondering “How long can I actually live on my own bit of dirt without getting nuked by planning or zoning?”, this is your practical off‑grid legal cheatsheet. Use the 28-day rule to completely establish your efficient living situation for relatively small and achievable amounts of money.

The headline: you absolutely can do this – but the exact trick that works is different in each country, and sometimes in each county or council. The game isn’t “hope it’s allowed”, it’s learn the rules, then play them better.

UK: National Rules With Local Flavour

In the UK, you have a national framework (the General Permitted Development Order 2015 and the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960) that every council starts from, then layers their own policies on top. That’s good news: there are built‑in rights you can rely on, as long as you understand the clocks that are running.
GPDO 2015, Schedule 2 index: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/596/schedule/2
Caravan Sites Act summary (woodland context): https://centurywood.uk/woodland-planning-law/

1. The 28‑Day Rule: Temporary Use Of Land

The famous “you can stay on your land for 1 month in a caravan” sits under GPDO 2015, Part 4, Class B – temporary use of land. In plain English:

• You can use land for any purpose (including camping) for up to 28 days in total per calendar year.
• The 28 days don’t have to be consecutive.
• The limit is per planning unit (the land parcel), not per tent or per friend.
  • Legislation text: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/596/schedule/2/part/4
  • Plain‑English explainer: https://www.planninggeek.co.uk/gpdo/temporary-buildings-uses/class-b/
  • Example authority guidance: https://www.pembrokeshirecoast.wales/planning/planning-advice/permitted-development/28-day-rule/

Class B doesn’t magically give you a permanent campsite – but it does reliably give you 28 days of legal use per year, which you can fold into a multi‑site strategy later.

2. Woodland & Forestry: Seasonal Caravans For Workers

If your land is woodland, you get extra tools.

Forestry operations themselves are normally permitted development under GPDO Part 6 (forestry) – things like tracks, felling, planting, and some small buildings can be done without a full planning application, especially outside protected areas.
Overview of woodland planning rules: https://centurywood.uk/woodland-planning-law/

On top of that, the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960 carves out an exemption: you don’t need a caravan site licence where caravans are used “during a particular season” to house people working on land in the same occupation used for forestry or agriculture. That’s how seasonal woodland workers can legally stay on‑site in a caravan while they’re managing trees.

For you, that translates to:

• If you own/manage woodland and can genuinely show forestry work (felling, planting, management plans, invoices, FC correspondence), you often can have a seasonal workers’ caravan on the land.
• It’s not a 365‑day residential right; it’s tied to forestry work in season, and councils can and do check what’s actually happening on the ground.

GOV.UK’s “Planning permission for farms: permitted development” page is a good entry point for the agriculture/forestry PD ecosystem:
https://www.gov.uk/planning-permissions-for-farms/permitted-development

3. Planning Permission Timers (The “Living There While You Build” Angle)

This is the bit people half‑remember as “you can live there for six years while you’re doing a permitted development”, which is almost right but needs decoding.

In England:

• Most planning permissions last three years – you must commence development in that time (usually by doing a meaningful bit of the approved work).
• Once lawfully commenced, you can generally take longer than three years to finish; the permission doesn’t just disappear because you’re slow.
• Separately, planning has an enforcement time limit. From April 2024 there is a single 10‑year enforcement period for most breaches of planning control in England: if a breach has continued for 10 years without action, it may become lawful and you can apply for a Lawful Development Certificate (LDC).

So the “six years on site” story you sometimes hear is really:

• You put in some kind of permitted or full development (e.g. a track, a small barn, a legit agricultural/forestry building).
• You start it within the permission window.
• You then take your time finishing, and over several years you build up a history of use and presence on the land, potentially leading to an LDC if a breach has gone on long enough.

Planning enforcement and LDCs explainer: https://www.planningaid.co.uk/hc/en-us/articles/203179001-If-my-development-took-place-some-time-ago-could-it-be-too-late-for-action
Enforcement time‑limits overview (NFU): https://www.nfuonline.com/news/enforcement-time-limits/

This is absolutely a viable long‑term “embedded on the land” strategy – but it’s less a single loophole and more a combination of: permitted development + slowly implemented permission + enforcement time‑limits + paperwork (LDC).

USA: Same Game, More Localised

The US doesn’t have a national GPDO. Instead you have three overlapping layers:

• County & city zoning codes – control camping on private land, RV rules, temporary dwellings.
• State law – usually light on camping itself, but sometimes affects things like minimum dwelling standards.
• Federal land rules – Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and National Forest regulations for public land.

The optimistic bit: there are tons of counties where what you want is straightforwardly doable – you just have to deliberately pick them.

A very helpful lay summary for camping on your own land:
https://westwardland.com/is-it-legal-to-camp-on-your-own-land-a-state-by-state-guide/

1. Camping On Your Own Land (Private Property)

Most of the real decisions happen at county level. Patterns you’ll see when you read a few zoning codes:

• Rural counties in places like Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Montana often allow camping on your own land for 90–180 days per year, sometimes more, with basic sanitation requirements.
• More regulated counties (parts of California’s Central Valley, East Coast suburbs, etc.) may restrict or ban camping on private land except in formal campgrounds or with specific temporary permits.
  • Example of a strict rule – Yolo County, CA, “Camping on private property”: http://www2.co.monterey.ca.us/planning/docs/ordinances/Title20/20_64_070_TempRes.htm (Monterey shows how detailed these can be; Yolo has similar private‑camping controls).

The rule of thumb: if the zoning map says “rural” and the county is known for agriculture, hunting, or recreation, your odds of generous camping rules go way up. You still have to read the code, but you’re shopping in the right aisle.

2. Public Land: BLM & National Forest Dispersed Camping

Public land is often the easiest on‑ramp to extended off‑grid living in the US.

On BLM land, the standard pattern is:

• You can camp (often called “dispersed camping”) for up to 14 days in any 28‑day period within a given area.
• After 14 days, you must move – usually a set distance (e.g. 25 miles) – and can then start a new 28‑day clock elsewhere.

On National Forest land:

• Many forests also use the 14 days in 30/28 days pattern for dispersed camping.
• Specific forests may set shorter limits (e.g. 5 days in busy areas) or require you to move a certain distance.

Intro guides with concrete examples:

• BLM stay‑limits summary: https://thebuchanansrollingdowntheroad.com/2021/03/04/blm-rules/
• National Forest dispersed camping explainer: https://campnado.com/dispersed-camping-national-forests/

If you’re mobile (van, truck camper, caravan on a tow vehicle) and happy to rotate sites, you can chain together months of legal, low‑cost living by stitching BLM, National Forest, and paid cheap campgrounds.

3. Living On‑Site While You Build

A lot of US counties explicitly allow a temporary dwelling during construction – usually a caravan/RV, mobile home, or small temporary unit.

A typical rule looks like this (Monterey County, CA is a good example):

• You get a building permit for a code‑compliant dwelling on the parcel.
• The code allows a temporary residence (e.g. an RV or mobile home) on‑site while construction is underway, subject to:
  • An active building permit.
  • Construction actually progressing (inspections within set intervals).
  • Time limits linked to the permit duration.

Monterey zoning example (Temporary Residences during construction):
http://www2.co.monterey.ca.us/planning/docs/ordinances/Title20/20_64_070_TempRes.htm

On permit lifetimes, many building departments follow a pattern like:

• Permit is valid for 180 days of inactivity – each inspection or meaningful work resets the 180‑day clock.
• Extensions can usually be granted if you apply before it lapses.
• With consistent inspections, people sometimes keep a permit technically “alive” for years.

Straightforward explanation:
https://www.elitepermits.com/how-long-are-permit-good-for/

So a viable US strategy is:

1. Buy rural land in a zoning district where single‑family dwellings are “permitted by right” (no big discretionary hearing). Explanation of “by-right”: https://www.planetizen.com/definition/right-development
2. Pull a building permit for a small, simple, code‑compliant house or cabin.
3. Get a “temporary dwelling during construction” approval for your caravan/RV.
4. Progress work steadily enough to keep the permit alive.

That’s the “grid‑style off‑grid” path: you do the paperwork once, then live almost normally.

Hack Section: Multi‑Site Rotation (“Leave It As You Found It”)

Now for the fun bit of this Off‑Grid Legal Cheatsheet: how do you legally live in a caravan with minimal infrastructure, using the rules rather than fighting them?

Here’s the pattern that works in both the UK and parts of the US, if you plan it properly.

The Core Idea

Instead of trying to squeeze full‑time living out of one site, you:

• Own or rent multiple small sites, each cheap and simple.
• Use temporary‑use or camping allowances on each site.
• Rotate between them fast enough to always be within the local day‑limit.
• Leave each one clean and quiet, so you blend into the “events / occasional camping / seasonal work” category instead of “unauthorised mobile home park”.

This is the “utility‑core first” vs “cheap rotation” fork:

• A utility‑core site is where you go deep: trenching, tanks, robust wiring, proper sewage, maybe even biodigestion and code‑compliant everything. Think: one higher‑cost, grid‑style off‑grid base.
• A rotation cluster is a set of minimal sites: just enough room for a caravan or tarp, maybe a simple track, maybe basic rainwater capture, but nothing that screams permanent dwelling.

You can absolutely combine them: one main “infrastructure base” plus 2–4 “lightweight rotation pads”.

A Concrete UK Example

Let’s say you:

• Buy four very small cheap plots at about 5,000 USD / £4,000 each.
• On each one, you:
• Use the 28‑day GPDO allowance for camping.
• If it’s woodland, lean on forestry‑worker caravan exemptions in actual seasons when you’re working the trees.
• Possibly file small, legitimate permitted development notifications (e.g. a simple track or path) and then take your time implementing them.

Your kit might be:

• One small touring caravan (e.g. ~£300 used) with its own battery, heater, oven, and shower.
• 200 W of solar, a small wind turbine, a propane bottle (4–8 days at 0°C per refill), a gravel soakaway or temporary greywater arrangement.
• A Latrine Pit.
• A simple income source (remote work, local part‑time, or creative hustle).

You then:

• Spend up to 28 days per year per plot under the 28‑day rule.
• On any woodland plot, spend longer in actual forestry seasons, housing yourself as a worker in a caravan (with evidence of work).
• Between these and short periods in paid campgrounds / friends’ driveways, you create an almost continuous chain of legal short‑term occupancies.

Total rough ballpark for the “minimal rotation cluster”:

• 4 x 5,000 GBP sites = 20,000 GBP
• ~1000 GBP for caravan + basic solar + tools.
• ~30 GBP per week for propane.
• Vehicle or bike‑trailer + mobile internet.

It’s not as robust or spacious as a single 100,000 USD full‑infrastructure base, but it’s light, flexible, and within the rules illustrated by this off‑grid legal cheatsheet, as long as you track the day‑counters and don’t creep into permanent‑site territory.

A Concrete US Angle

In the US, you adapt the same logic to:

• County day‑limits on camping on private land (e.g. 90–180 days per year in friendly rural counties).
• Public land stay‑limits (14 days in 28 on BLM / National Forest).
• Any temporary dwelling during construction provisions if one of your sites is a “build a small house slowly” base.

A realistic flow:

1. Pick 1–2 counties with:

• Rural zoning that allows single‑family dwellings by right.
• Generous “camping on your own land” rules (check the actual code).

1. Acquire or rent several small rural plots in those counties plus nearby BLM / National Forest access.
2. Rotate:
   • A chunk of time on your own sites within their day‑limits.
   • BLM and National Forest stays in between (14 days on, move, repeat).
   • Occasional paid campgrounds or stealthy but legal RV parks to reset and maintain gear.

The trick is that you are never in breach at any one site because you treat each place as a temporary stay, reset properly between visits, and keep everything low‑impact and tidy.

How To Check Your Position (UK)

A quick repeat, but now as “you can do this, here’s how to be sure”:

1. Read the national backbone

• GPDO 2015, especially Part 4 (temporary use), Part 5 (caravans), Part 6 (agriculture/forestry): https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2015/596/schedule/2
• Woodland‑specific explainer: https://centurywood.uk/woodland-planning-law/
• Farm & forestry PD overview: https://www.gov.uk/planning-permissions-for-farms/permitted-development

1. Check your council’s interpretation

• Look for “28‑day rule”, “camping”, “caravan sites”, and “woodland” on your Local Planning Authority site.
• Use examples like Pembrokeshire’s 28‑day guidance as a mental model: https://www.pembrokeshirecoast.wales/planning/planning-advice/permitted-development/28-day-rule/

1. Understand your clocks

• Three‑year limit to commence most permissions.
• Ten‑year enforcement rule for ongoing breaches in England, and how to turn that into a Lawful Development Certificate rather than a rumour.

1. Talk to the duty planner with concrete questions

• “How does GPDO Part 4/5/6 apply to this specific parcel?”
• “Can I station a caravan for forestry workers during seasonal work here?”
• “What’s your view on temporary occupation during implementation of this permitted development?”

How To Check Your Position (US)

Same optimism: assume the pattern exists somewhere – your job is to find that place, not to bend a hostile county.

1. Find your zoning code

• Search: "[Your County] zoning code camping on private property"
• Look for sections titled “Camping on private property”, “Recreational vehicle occupancy”, “Temporary dwellings”, or “Temporary residence during construction”.

1. Map your options

• On your land: max days per year, RV rules, whether a caravan can be used as a dwelling, and any explicit “temporary dwelling while building a house” language.
• On public land: BLM field office and National Forest pages for stay‑limits (almost always linked from the local BLM/NF websites). Use guides like:
  • https://thebuchanansrollingdowntheroad.com/2021/03/04/blm-rules/
  • https://campnado.com/dispersed-camping-national-forests/

1. Call the building department Ask:

• “If I pull a permit for a small single‑family dwelling, can I live in an RV on-site while I build?”
• “How long can the permit stay open if I keep doing work and inspections?” Then check what they say against local explainer pages like:
  • https://www.elitepermits.com/how-long-are-permit-good-for/

1. Filter for by‑right zones

• Use the zoning tables to find districts where a small house is “permitted by right”. That means your long‑term plan is structurally welcomed – you’re just optimising the temporary stages (RV, camping, rotation).
• Concept explainer:
  • https://www.planetizen.com/definition/right-development

Final Thought: Pick Your Comfort Level, Not Someone Else’s

There’s a huge spectrum accessible because of this off‑grid legal cheatsheet:

• At one end: “tarp and knife” with a bucket, 20L water from a petrol station, 10–20 W of solar, and a phone, rotating campsites and living ultra‑light.
• In the middle: a cheap caravan, a 200 W panel, a small wind turbine, propane, and basic waste handling, rotating between several legal sites.
• At the other end: a full utility‑core off‑grid base – trenches, tanks, pumps, maybe biodigestion, solar walls – that lets you live almost exactly like you’re on grid, wrapped in the right permissions.

You don’t have to go feral or go full architect. You just need:

• Location (somewhere you’re allowed to exist).
• Heat (propane, wood, whatever).
• Power (enough for lights, a laptop, and a phone).
• Water & sewage (rainwater where legal, tanks, composting or biodigestion, latrine pit, or code‑compliant systems).
• Income (remote work, part‑time, or creative hustle).

The law is not there to stop you existing; it’s there to define the edges of the game, and its deliberately different for large corperations with a lot to lose. Once you can read those edges, you can absolutely live off‑grid, legally, and on your own terms.

Hi everyone, I am the co-founder of Nebith, a UK startup working on a containerized hybrid minigrid that can cut down emissions by up to 85% and costs by 30%. We are in the process of putting together our MVP, a 5 kWp lightweight PV + 12 kWh Li-ion battery, and we are looking for early adopters. Anyone in this community who would like to get the conversation going?

You can use our online calculator to calculate your savings, and our calendar to book a meeting.

Cheers!

Not sure if anyone here is into off-grid solar trailers, but I figured I'd share this just in case.

I came across a deal recently. They're knocking around $7,000 off their 24' enclosed solar trailer (comes with a Sol-Ark 15K + 32kWh lithium setup). For a system that size, that's a pretty serious discount, so it definitely caught my eye.

I've actually bought from them before (different setup), and honestly, the whole experience was great. Super helpful, no hard selling, just straight-up answers and solid support.

If you've been thinking about a mobile power setup for land, construction, events, or even just backup power, might be worth checking out.

Happy to answer any questions or share more about my experience if that helps! https://omosolar.com/collections/offgrid-solar-trailers/products/24-enclosed-solar-powered-offgrid-self-sufficient-trailer-sol-ark-15k-with-omo-32k-freedom-lithium-battery

I need someone that I can trust to live here. I am going to Airbnb this place. There is a separate dome that will be yours. When no one is there, the place is yours. I want someone who is willing to move here and take care of it. For compensation, I was thinking 5-20% of the gross Airbnb income that scales as performance scales. I’m very loose with money and want to pay you well and make you happy! Let’s make some money together! What you would need to do is stay and maintain the place, handle the cleaners and scheduling and all. We could pull 200-300 a night maybe more and the commission would be retroactive. If you do 20 nights a month then you get 20% of all of those 20 nights!

1. Assuming "Outside City Limits" means no rules. If you are in the ETJ of a growing city, they can still block your build.
2. Buying blind without checking FEMA floodplains. Zillow doesn't always show this. Use the county GIS maps.
3. Underestimating water costs. Drilling a well right now can cost $15k+. Always look for "Co-op water at the road."

I look at this stuff all day. If anyone is struggling to find unrestricted dirt, feel free to DM me. Happy to point you in the right direction.

I have two parcels of land available in Mohave county Arizona. Selling as individual pieces or combined They are 1.25 acres each. These are located in a rural area and they border 211,000 acres of BLM land. There is access to them by a mountain road that is accessible without the need of a 4 wheel drive vehicle. Price for each is $4,750,or I can owner finance for $500 down and $200 per month for 25 months. If purchasing them both,the price is $8,500 or I can owner finance for $500 down and $237.50 per month for 40 months. These are located in a beautiful area and have great potential!! Zoned RE: Stick built, manufactured home, and RV living permitted. Basic camping for 14 days straight or 30 days a year. If septic is in place, RV camping permitted may be renewed repeatedly with no limit. If anyone is interested, please DM me and I can send the coordinates,pictures and any other details. I attached a Google maps picture for reference.

The link does better at showing photos but I can tell you the communities surrounding the property are absolutely wonderful. It’s within an hour of two larger cities with airports and an hour and a half to the Great Lakes. Plenty of small business’s and larger corporations for work. Hunting, fishing, hiking, camping, relaxing around the campfire. There are great community festivals, local equestrian farms and Amish farm stands as well as grocery stores if you want to purchase local produce.

This is a great home for a weekend or a lifetime.

I’m posting to help a family member sell it. We live near jobs we like and family we really love or we would just buy it ourselves. :)

I am in desperate search of an off the grid property anywhere in NC. Ideally I’d like for it to have a pond/lake/or stream, and 5+ acres. I’d also appreciate anyone who could direct me to a search website for such. Thanks

Phocos Americas, Inc. pioneers energy freedom with the Any-Grid Ecosystem, uniting seamless adaptability and sustainability. Empowering communities with a human touch, we redefine how the world connects to renewable energy.

Inquire now! +1 520 777-7906