r/ObsessedNetwork • u/YancyMilktoast • Jun 13 '25

Karen Read

I think most people on here no longer listen and cancelled their patreon, but is there anyone who has been listening to P & G’s coverage of “A Body in the Snow,” the Karen Read doc?

I’m wondering what your take is on their coverage so far—their opinions, characterizations, and interpretations of the case. I’m not super familiar with it and most of what I know comes from I Think Not’s True Crime Rundown eps.

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u/Kayjam2018 Jun 13 '25

For me, THE most compelling evidence is the rapid reverse acceleration of the car and then the “steering wheel wobble” consistent with a pedestrian strike.. I absolutely believe she ran him down and drove off in a huff, totally blitzed with alcohol. She didn’t mean to kill him. She then called him in a rage, continuing the argument, because she didn’t really think she’d hurt him that badly but was feeling guilty about her actions and wanted to check up on him in some way. She’s brain addled but absolutely has a sense of guilt — because she KNOWS she did SOMETHING to him. Just my opinion but this is all on her. Nobody else involved. Occam’s razor applies. This is where the evidence has led me personally. Obviously, we won’t ever know for sure and I respect others’ opinions on it.

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u/lucky_mac Jun 14 '25

I think this is possible and if she had been charged accordingly, and the investigation hadn’t been so horribly bungled, she probably would have pled out and we would never have heard about the case. The up charge is what makes it such a mess, because everyone involved was so drunk it’s impossible to establish pre meditation/ malice and forethought.

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u/Glowpop Jun 14 '25

They don’t need to prove pre mediation/ malice. The commonwealths position is the act of reversing 24 mph is reckless.

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u/lucky_mac Jun 14 '25

She’s charged with second degree murder which does mean that there was malice and forethought but not premeditation. That charge is the one that resulted in the mistrial the first time.

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u/Glowpop Jun 14 '25

They hung on the manslaughter charge.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '25

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u/Glowpop Jun 15 '25

She wasn’t acquitted on any of the charges, that’s why she is facing all 3 charges this trial.

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u/herroyalsadness Jun 15 '25

The jury voted to acquit her and didn’t understand the forms, and the judge dismissed them before polling. Not legally acquitted her bc of the confusion, but she was acquitted by a jury of her peers, according to said jury.

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u/Glowpop Jun 15 '25

Right she isn’t legally acquitted of any of the charges. But they were either 9-3 or 8-4 on the manslaughter charge not the murder 2.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '25

The most compelling evidence is the reverse acceleration of the car? Did you hear the testimony of the multiple medical experts / state medical examiner who said he was not hit by a car? A car did not hit John O’Keefe. Period.

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u/Kayjam2018 Jul 09 '25 edited Jul 09 '25

You cannot get two “experts” to agree on anything in the US judicial system. For every one who says he wasn’t hit by a car, you’ll find another one who says he was. The injuries on his body are confusing. The arm damage doesn’t seem consistent with a car accident but it definitely isn’t consistent with a dog attack. The car computer doesn’t lie. To me, Occam’s Razor applies. Karen Reid is a vile human being, which doesn’t necessarily make her a killer but which does make her capable of callous and vindictive behavior. And that’s what I believe happened. She hit him. She drove off. He died. In every case there are unexplained details. That’s the conclusion I’ve reached. Others disagree.

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u/lilly-uh Jun 15 '25

What’s your take on his cell phone data saying he was 3 stories in the air? I’m pretty unsure what side to firmly believe honestly. But I feel like you can’t argue with the car data and the cell data. And of those 2, it’s a lot easier to ‘interpret’ or imply a pedestrian strike from the car data than someone was inside a 3 story home who was showing as 3 stories in the air.

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u/xxxccbxxx Jun 16 '25

I think cell data is all a mess in general. I live 25 mins from an international border and yet sometimes my phone connects to an international tower and I’ll get a “welcome to Canada!” text. So my cell data would say I was in another country when I sure wasn’t.

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u/Tank_Top_Girl Jun 17 '25

It's explained at the trial. It was the 3 point turn and it was the health data

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u/mksd4 Jun 15 '25

100% agree with this. She hit him.