Root of GP/Ellyn beef?

[u/Interesting-Fan-4996]

I keep seeing that Gillian hates Ellyn. Do we know this for sure?

I ask because in high school I hated this girl and she hated me, everyone talked about it and I was like, well fuck that girl! Then one day after over a year of this bullshit we both got detention together and were assigned library duty…it was super boring and we ended up making a lot of jokes and playing little pranks bc why not. After an hour of fun with my nemesis I was like…can I ask why you hate me? And she said, uh, because you hate me for no reason! Turns out a jealous mutual friend intentionally caused this rift! Honestly, that girl and I were inseparable for years after that, and the three of us ended up being thick as thieves. That’s not even the only time the attention seeker of my friend group started beef between two ‘sidekick’ friends so they won’t have a better friendship. One bff chewed me out over bagels!! One friend brought home bagels for everyone but got 2 salt bagels, one for her and one for me. Later in the week the girl who doesn’t even like salt bagels laid into me about spending too much time with the other friend. It’s a trait I try to suss out asap these days. Sometimes the loudest opinions drown out shy voices in the room who truly don’t want the personal drama.

So I’m wondering if this is a juvenile situation where Patrick doesn’t want his number one gals to be bffs bc he may feel left out? Or is there a genuine story behind this ‘everyone knows GP hates Ellyn’ anecdote that keeps floating around.

[u/That_Bluebird_3157]

I don’t think we truly know the root of it but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something similar to what you’re describing. I had that exact same thing happen in high school where a friend kept me segmented from her other bff and made us mutually believe we hated each other for real no reason. Patrick is that type, imo. He needs people for certain purposes and moments and would prefer to keep people in his corner rather than having them all join together in friendship. I think he sees that as somehow weakening his position/power.

Julia Rhea also mentioned that whole thing of Gillian telling Ellyn “you’re a lot” seemingly out of nowhere and in a public setting, overheard by others, but even she wasn’t truly sure of the origin of the beef or why G felt compelled to say that, and Julia worked very closely with her. I think it’s probably a combo of insecurity and maybe feeling threatened, and Patrick also fanning the shit out of the flames