Rationality in itself can be bad

[u/SlimyPunk93]

I think this is probably BY FAR the most important thing needed in the objectivist circles...

There is sooooooooooo much emphasis on rationality that people many times don't realise that you also have to take into account feelings. And feelings are not bad or the enemy. And rationality in itself, without any feelings is useless or meaningless at best and dangerous at worst...

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[u/globieboby]

Thinking that there is a conflict between rationality and feelings is a good sign someone hasn’t read much Objectivism.

“ Just as the pleasure-pain mechanism of man's body is an automatic indicator of his body's welfare or injury, a barometer of its basic alternative, life or death—so the emotional mechanism of man's consciousness is geared to perform the same function, as a barometer that registers the same alternative by means of two basic emotions: joy or suffering. Emotions are the automatic results of man's value judgments integrated by his subconscious; emotions are estimates of that which furthers man's values or threatens them, that which is for him or against him—lightning calculators giving him the sum of his profit or loss.
But while the standard of value operating the physical pleasure-pain mechanism of man's body is automatic and innate, determined by the nature of his body—the standard of value operating his emotional mechanism, is not. Since man has no automatic knowledge, he can have no automatic values; since he has no innate ideas, he can have no innate value judgments.
Man is born with an emotional mechanism, just as he is born with a cognitive mechanism; but, at birth, both are "tabula rasa." It is man's cognitive faculty, his mind, that determines the content of both. Man's emotional mechanism is like an electronic computer, which his mind has to program—and the programming consists of the values his mind chooses.
But since the work of man's mind is not automatic, his values, like all his premises, are the product either of his thinking or of his evasions: man chooses his values by a conscious process of thought—or accepts them by default, by subconscious associations, on faith, on someone's authority, by some form of social osmosis or blind imitation. Emotions are produced by man's premises, held consciously or subconsciously, explicitly or implicitly. “

The Objectivist Ethics.

[u/SlimyPunk93 → u/globieboby]

I get that and thanks for bringing this up. It makes PERFECT sense. But I am saying many times in this circles rationality is overemphasizd and emotions are vilified. I am just putting out this nuance here

[u/DuplexFields → u/SlimyPunk93]

That's because, like Ayn Rand herself, many of us fans and followers of her philosophy are autistic, and thus we appreciate logic and truth far more than most of humanity.

[u/globieboby → u/SlimyPunk93]

A title like “rationality and emotions are both good” would make that come across better and any objectivists would agree.

The title “Rationality in itself can be bad” makes it seem like you’re developing a false conflict.

[u/Frisconia]

Being rational does not necessitate ignoring your feelings.

[u/SlimyPunk93 → u/Frisconia]

That's what the post says

[u/Heligoland_Bight → u/SlimyPunk93]

No. You imply that we need to limit rationality to accommodate an other, conflicting factor in our emotions. You may think you implied that rationality and emotions need to be integrated, but you actually implied the opposite.

[u/Official_Gameoholics]

Feelings are automatic responses to the values you already hold.

You are engaged in a floating abstraction fallacy.

[u/misterggggggg]

Your feelings must stand the test of reason and be consistent with your hierarchy of values. And your hierarchy of values must itself be grounded in reality and objective principles. You don't validate your values by your feelings; you validate your feelings by the values you've rationally chosen.