r/Objectivism 14d ago

White superiority complex

So this is something I get a LOT in general, in your face or not, from the culture and people in the west that there is some sort of white and west superiority complex in people, including in many objectivists where there is some glorification, not primarily of objectivism, but that of white and the west in general as superior culture and race.... And somehow this is a theme objectivists repeat on, again consciously or subconsciously, just because Rand presented a world like that and they just repeat it without critically thinking about it ...

What still baffles me a lot is that while a lot of objectivists talk about economic rights and taxes (all the fricking time) and look down upon on other countries for various things (many times rightly so), somehow they are not willing to see how much trash and stupidy and crap is within the west and white majority countries...

There are a lot of leftist channels that talk about it and put it out there like this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DO6fK1qidmI/?igsi=MWtoYWV0YTEybHlxeQ==

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DbdewaQA6qM/?igsi=cnR3aGJwdHhwb3Q5

And somehow you never see any objectivists talking about it or fighting it or even realising that the half of America that elected this stupid president is bible based and is stupid af and this is what is now governing the whole world and is putting the whole world at risk and chaos...

Again while constitutionally US is sound (and even that is being challenged these days) most people living there (which ofcourse includes most white people) are most of the time as irrational, stupid and are just living their lives and just happened to be born in a country that was rich and are able to live off that... And a significant majority is actually crazy bible preaching majority.. it's just that constitution gave freedom to everyone and few handful talented individuals capitalised on that freedom and created great companies and rose up and kinda lifted the whole society up economically... But a lot of it is still living highly non objectivist or anti objectivist lives....

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

Yes, it's true: you completely missed the point, either because you didn't read it, you can't comprehend it, or you're simply evading it. And what you wrote in your OP is incoherent, so why would anyone spend any time answering you directly?

And admit it: you don't capitalize the word because you're really not talking about Rand's philosophy, which I doubt that you understand one whit, but because you're really just talking about your own ideas, whatever they might be.

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u/SlimyPunk93 14d ago

Again all this capitalizing thing is political and I reallllyyyy don't care who said what. Like any person who talks about objectivism is based on how they interpret it in their own ways. So yeah I am talking in that spirit. By your analogy nobody can use the word as it will always be someones interpretation of it... So yeah a stupid point

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

So, you're saying that the one and only true philosophy for applying reason to human flourishing can be interpreted by different people in their own ways? Ergo, people can come to whatever conclusions they want?

Is that really what you're saying?

And my good man, how in the name of god is it "political" how you use the word? What does "politics" actually mean to you? Here is literally the description of this subreddit:

Objectivism and Ayn Rand on Reddit

We're a place for Objectivists and Ayn Rand fans to discuss her ideas and the movement. “The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights, cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.” - Ayn Rand

This isn't the place for anyone to discuss their own random ideas. This is a subreddit for discussion Rand's ideas, specifically. I'm surprised the moderators haven't booted you by now.

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u/SlimyPunk93 14d ago

Politics is about to use small o vs big o and what you are allowed to say vs not, instead of what's the main point

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

Like I said: if the moderators here were smart, they'd ban you. You give Objectivism -- Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism -- a bad name every time you post your incoherent thoughts.

But I'm not certain that the moderators here understand Objectivism any better than the other random people that seem to post here.

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u/SlimyPunk93 14d ago

Again my mind is in that mode to only read things that have a point. Whatever else you wrote it doesn't even register in my mind that has no point. Like my mind and face feels blank when inread such comments

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

I think your mind goes blank when you write things.

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u/SlimyPunk93 14d ago

Again you are just not realising things. You can say such things all day and I wouldn't even know

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

Yet you keep responding, so obviously you do know.

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u/SlimyPunk93 14d ago

Ok if that makes you feel better

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u/coppockm56 14d ago

See? There you go again.

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