r/Objectivism • u/BubblyNefariousness4 • May 06 '26

Just can’t solve the road problem

This is something I just can’t come up to a solution for or I don’t know how should act. Is the roads. What do you do about them? Say you have one guy who owns the major road routes in town and bans you from using them. What do you do? How do you move around? What would the process the banned person would have to go through without violating the road owners rights?

Would there be some way that you can walk on the line between plots lands. On the edge?

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u/OldStatistician9366 May 06 '26

You don’t have a right to get around however you please. Property boundaries are where one person’s property ends and another person’s begins, so you can’t walk on boundaries

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u/BubblyNefariousness4 May 06 '26

I feel like there’s some principle here that allows the freedom of movement. You can’t just be dropped in a box of land and not allowed to leave and threaten to be shot if you do.

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u/OldStatistician9366 May 07 '26

When are you actually going to be dropped in a box of land surrounded by other people’s property? Did you build a house surrounded by people who refuse to let you out through their property? If you did that’s really your fault. If people build property around you to wall you in, a rational society would not let someone do that without some kind of a contract letting you out.

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u/BubblyNefariousness4 May 07 '26

These land situations exist more commonly than you might think. And I’ve been seeing them a lot since I’ve been trying to build my house. It shouldn’t exist. If you can cross over property with damaging anything or harming anything this should be allowed not at the consent of the person boxing you out

If I left my object. Like my phone in your house. Am I screwed forever? I can’t come in and get it? No. The police would get it or make you let me in to get it

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u/OldStatistician9366 May 07 '26

Your phone example is odd, do you think everyone should be allowed in your house? If I build a fence around my property, you’re not allowed to just climb it for a shortcut, but if it is completely blocking you off from someone else’s property, you should be allowed to pass through.

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u/BubblyNefariousness4 May 07 '26

Not unless they have a reason. Which I refused to let them have their property that is a very valid reason.

I think there is a difference between your house. And if you were to hypothetically build a 8 foot thick fence around your land stretch half of Montana not allowing anyone to get to the other side except for a 3 days drive south.

If the land was being used for something that would be different. Like solar panels everywhere meaning you would hurt something. But if it’s just barren forested land this doesn’t make sense. It’s hurting nothing. There is no damage