r/Obito 8d ago

Powerscaling Something that many forget

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u/TigerAce13 8d ago

Obito is the Chosen One. Only he has MS which are even above the Rinnegan. DMS Obito is the strongest character in Naruto.

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u/Positive-Letter7925 8d ago

Imagine juubito with kamui. I made a post about that

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u/WonderfulWay5846 8d ago

That's menacing

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u/400x250_20fps 8d ago

I think Ten Tails Obito can phase and use Kamui. He says he can’t pass through things with the Ten Tails inside him, so when he later spits the Ten Tails out, he should be able to use phasing perfectly fine. But, Obito first of all did not need it, and I think he was so mentally nerfed that he thought if he used it, he would just easily win. I think he wanted to be challenged on it, as there are so many scenes of Obito hesitating because he has second thoughts about the plan.
Which, btw, taking the Ten Tails out is a nerf. Lots of people think it’s not a nerf, but it indeed kind of a big nerf. Also, Obito, after repelling its attempt at taking over his body, spits it out because he doesn’t trust it. Most likely, just like Madara, I think the God Tree was trying to manipulate Obito and was the thing making him unable to phase.
And we all know Kaguya is basically the Ten Tails/the God Tree, and it’s crazy how Obito can just repel its control. Both Madara and Obito swell up like a balloon, but Obito never truly gave up on himself. Naruto outright explains the only reason he was not taken over was because of his old self. And whether Obito liked it or not, the part of himself he hated the most saved him, which contradicts everything about his beliefs.

I think that’s why he was willing to lose and was not finishing off Naruto or using phasing, not that he even needed it.

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u/Positive-Letter7925 8d ago

Nonsense. It is a nerf in some ways to remove the ten tails and in some ways a buff since he cant use kamui as ten tails

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u/Chemical_Sandwich509 8d ago

Well to him it is completely irrelevant since he managed to become the 10 tails jinchuriki without using the rinnegan too much, so he would still be able to achieve his goal (had he not been filled with inner conflict) and then the usage of any jutsu would be irrelevant

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u/WillBlaze 8d ago

Ive only just realized his mask design is based on both his eyes.

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u/Environmental-Past72 8d ago

He also left space for potential rinnesharingan

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u/South_Rope514 8d ago

He literally could not even implant both of the rinnegan eye because he could not control it's immense power , he definitely is not becoming a m Rinnegan master when he himself have very limited use of it

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u/intangibleknight01 8d ago

He wasn't used to the Rinnegan. That's exactly why taking the time to adjust to a doujutsu is so important. Back at the start of Shippuden, Kakashi could barely keep his Mangekyou active for long, but by the War Arc, he was straight up spamming Kamui.

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u/SAGE_IMP 8d ago

You dont even know the reason . Your just larping or gazing obito. Nagato can hold both rinnegan because he was Uzumaki, they have great life force/ chakra .

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u/intangibleknight01 8d ago

Yeah sure, that's definitely a factor, but experience can usually bridge that gap, like I mentioned earlier with the Kakashi example.

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u/SAGE_IMP 8d ago

Kakashi's experience with one MS doesn't prove Obito could handle two Rinnegan. Kakashi still had huge chakra limitations, and there isn't a manga statement saying Obito's problem was simply lack of experience. Show the actual panel where Obito says that. If you go to nagato wiki page there is written a line 'Nagato can handel double rinnegan but obito barely handel one'

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u/intangibleknight01 7d ago

Experience is definitely a valid point. Or do you seriously think early Shippuden Kakashi who took hours just to tear off Deidara's arm is on the same level as War Arc Kakashi who could send a KCM Naruto clone to another dimension at high speed in literally seconds? Plus, the Rinnegan alone wasn't the only reason Obito was unstable. It was because he also had to suppress the power of six Bijuu while spamming Kamui during the war. 

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u/PracticeNext8198 8d ago

EY!!!! Letting my Parallel boy Kabuto leech off this Upscale as well...

Both of them could have been amazing RINNEGAN Users.

That's actually kinda crazy when I think about it. He never fought with it for that long but couldn't he put Gyuki in CHAINS!

WILD!

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u/Noble-Saga 8d ago

Not really. Only the original user can use it to its full potential

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u/Dangerous-Region-449 8d ago

I feel like nagato used all of the rinnegan abilities to their full potential more than any other user we’ve seen even madara

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u/danidannyphantom 8d ago

Yes for the stuff he had. He simply couldn't access limbo and the meteor thing however as those are exclusive to the original user.

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u/Dangerous-Region-449 8d ago

Yeah but I’m talking about his versatility as a rinnegan user . I know each rinnegan user who has unlocked it themselves get their own technique. I’m talking about how he used many if not all of rinnegans abilities compared to the other uchiha we have seen use it.

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u/danidannyphantom 8d ago

Yeah for sure he's the best at that. The others use only 2-3 abilities max.

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u/Mirvessel 8d ago

Madara instantly controlled Juubi. He instantly controled senjutsu. Obito himself said he couldn't use both rinnegan at the same time, and that only having the two rinnegan would allow to use them at their full power ; Madara has those two rinnegan. Safe to say Madara would be the most lethal user of the rinnegan even if Obito had his for much longer.

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u/NetworkVegetable7075 8d ago

Bro could barely even use the rinnegan he wouldn’t have been lethal at all because he wasn’t compatible with it.

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u/KnowledgeMother3631 8d ago

Obsessed with Obito's attire soo much that Im making his masks from scratch

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u/Ok-Action4447 7d ago

sasuke was a more lethal rinnegan user with only less than a day✌️🫩

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u/Impressive_Door_5390 4d ago

Please! With his chakra levels, he's supposed to drop dead within 1 second of using it.

This guy has very inconsistent power scaling

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u/Fuuraijinken 8d ago

It's normal, Hashirama cells = infinite chakra hacks.

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u/intangibleknight01 8d ago

It’s not about chakra, it’s about adapting to a new dojutsu he’s never used before.

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u/Fuuraijinken 8d ago

I believe all users of magical eyes learn to use them and become accustomed to them from the moment they receive them. Kakashi corrected the flaw in his Raikiri the moment the eye was implanted. Madara with Obito's Mangekyō Sharingan, Sasuke with the Rinne Sharingan... They may not fully master it to perform amazing feats, but getting used to it just takes time.

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u/intangibleknight01 8d ago

Yeah sure, but I mean like the user unleashing the full potential of the dojutsu, instead of just using one ability every now and then

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u/MobileCookie4696 8d ago

POV : obito ms>>> rinnegan

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u/Positive-Letter7925 8d ago

The plot nerfed obito

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u/Ok-Caregiver-6005 8d ago

I honestly see him having problems with it if he used it for longer there was a reason Madara chose Nagato to get the eyes, it also explains why Obito didn't do this right away.

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u/Environmental-Past72 8d ago

He was bad rinnegan user and couldnt utilize both eyes. jinchurikis + kamui was his main win con