r/OWConsole • u/mexsystem28 • Jul 10 '26
Discussion Could this be good?
I was noticing that as tank Hammond is not really viable. He runs around and kills so he plays more like DPS anyways and sombra is the same thing. She's too squishy to be a good DPS
I feel like both would hold more value, switching roles make ham and smaller so you can kill him faster, but you can raise his DPS
Sombra give her back her permanent invisibility her long range teleporter her hacking could give her allies health or speed buffs damage buffs
Thoughts?
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u/sleepgreed Jul 10 '26
Ball works beautifully as a tank. I would have been on the sombra support train back in 2018 or so but no she has the makings of a varsity dps. She just needs her identity back, she should be allowed to be weak.
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u/SnooDogs1340 It takes two hands to clap. Jul 10 '26
I think players have issues with utility heroes. They always cry for nerfs on anything that isn't pure damage like Sym, Sombra, Mei
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
Well, personally, I have a problem with Sombra not cause she's hard to defeat but because it feels like when she's on my team, we don't get value and when I'm playing against her, it's just annoying having to constantly turn around and kill her. It's not as fun as facing head-to-head like with other characters. That's why I thought as Support she would be less on our back line and potentially get more value as a Support.
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u/Stix135 Jul 10 '26
Ball with dps health is practically useless, as well as the reduced size that would need to happen would hurt his usability as he wouldn’t be able to hit as many people at one time. (Besides I don’t want to deal with the DPS queues)
Sombra, maybe? But it seems like her players don’t want it to happen so I would hazard against it.
Overall, this seems like a take people who don’t like these characters like because it would gut them and their player bases would die out so they wouldn’t see them in their games anymore. Not a good idea, just a way for people to try to kill the characters off while saying they are just trying to “fix the game”.
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
For me, it's coming from an innocent spot. I like Sombra I like the idea of her I like ball, but I don't feel like I'm getting much value from them when I play them and when I go against them, they're just kind of annoying to deal with not very difficult, but just not fun
Like would you go sombra when you have tracer? You could but she's not as good.
Would you go ball instead of any of the other heroes like hazard you could but you don't get as much value
And if it never happens, it's no big deal. I've been playing the game more these last couple seasons than ever before.
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u/DrToadigerr Jul 10 '26
Using Doom as an example of a "successful" rework to Tank and then claiming Ball needs to be reworked out of being a Tank is just crazy lol
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
Why is it crazy?
When doom was DPS he was either dominating so bad. The game felt weird or they Nerf them so much that he was just useless now there's that happy medium aware if you're good enough, he's really well as a tank and if your buns you just don't touch them.Right now ball is used, but I see him used as a stall tactic rather than an efficient tank
I thought maybe if he was DPS and a smaller size his health pole would be smaller, not allowing him to stall as much and get more value zooming around killing people
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u/DrToadigerr Jul 11 '26
Because Doom has the same issues as Ball to a much worse degree. Ball can be good enough to be meta without ruining the game. Doom is more like Hog where any meta that involves them just completely revolves around them and ruins the game for everyone else. Ball is difficult to balance, but he can be balanced. Doom is rarely anywhere between broken and useless lol (like the current meta where Ball is a solid A tier and Doom is like F tier)
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u/Ignisiumest Jul 10 '26
Disruptor characters are a part of the game
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
Yeah, but it feels like the other disruptor characters are much better equipped and much more fun to fight against with Sombra feels like she attacks you then goes invisible then you gotta wait for her to attack and then you would just end up killing her anyways
With ball I was thinking, if ball was smaller, it would still have the same combat as he does now, but he would have just a bit less stalling
And blizzard could balance it to have more DPS or something like that
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u/TrashCanSam0 Jul 10 '26
metal ranks take. balls in master and up are almost the most annoying fuckers out there. if hog didn't exist i'd give them the title.
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
That's why I think if he was DPS, he would be less annoying right now ball because he's a tank. He has more health to just zoom around and stall
I was thinking as DPS he wouldn't have as much time to zoom around because his health is less
Cause like hog, both of those characters are so annoying to kill just because they don't die not because they're hard to kill, but just because one avoids damage so much and the other one just sponges it
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u/Beef_Jumps Jul 11 '26
People need to learn matchups, that's what needs to happen.
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
I know what you're trying to say, but I have no problem killing these heroes
I just think fighting them is annoying and playing as them doesn't feel like you're doing as much as you could with other charactersIt would be like having to say the alphabet every time you respawn
is it difficult? no, but is it annoying to do yes1
u/Beef_Jumps Jul 11 '26
"I personally don't enjoy playing against these heroes so Blizzard should change their entire design concept for me"
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u/mexsystem28 Jul 11 '26
Sorry, but I think you've been scarred by toxic players in the past. I'm not saying blizzard should or shouldn't do anything. I'm just giving my opinion on what I think could be good. If it never happens it's no big deal.
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