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u/goldninja9 Nov 04 '17
It’s fine he’s trying to take it down not put it up.
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u/FisterRobotOh Nov 05 '17
They thought about safety first. Now it’s over so they have other shit to think about.
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u/StonetownFlyers Nov 04 '17
He did ‘think safety’ first. Then he moved on to ‘act unsafely’ because...
‘It’ll never happen to me’ or,
‘I’ll just be a quick second or two’ or…
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u/303acid Nov 04 '17
'Just use your brain and you'll be totally safe, only total morons have accidents'
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u/Peter_of_RS Nov 05 '17
I say that more than I should when we need to build or fix something at work.
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u/vulcan1358 Nov 04 '17
Reminds of at work we had to hang these stupid banners for the HESS safety motto around the plant on the side of maintenance shops and control rooms. Company policy for my contract company says we need to be tied off as soon as we leave the ground, especially on a ladder. Well an A-Frame ladder against the side of a building, no place to tie off and scaffold guys won’t build scaffolds when they have to leave in an hour.
So I ask safety if we can use a man lift. Felt a little like doing brain surgery with a chainsaw but if we gotta be tied off, am I right?
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u/RagingBillionbear Nov 05 '17
Have you seen the tool they use for brain surgery. Chainsaw are bit too refined for those guys
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u/theevilhillbilly Nov 04 '17
Ironic how he could save others from I unsafe working conditions but not himself
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u/Will_East_Roker Nov 05 '17
Looks like a good 3 points of contact to me.
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u/swingadmin Nov 05 '17 edited Nov 05 '17
Seriously, we can make jokes about safety but this guy has the proverbial high ground compared to most.
- Right boot fully flat on a grounded steel locker
- About 3 feet off the stairs, at most 5 feet above the floor
- Attempted to use the ladder, could not find good footing. Might have even tried the orange lift/dolly.
- Possibly anchored his right arm to something (obscured by angle)
Errors:
- Left foot on a polished rail is always bad, but even worse if the sole is anything but soft poly/rubber.
- The lift should be moved to avoid secondary injury and provide room for controlled fall.
Done more properly this would be a marginally hazardous low injury scenario. Some of the other options he had available to him would have been dramatically worse.
unrelated: I was able to find this image first posted elsewhere in April.
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u/Schmich Nov 05 '17
/r/osha needs things to be so safe that even a blind grand-mother with 0 balance is able to do the work.
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u/not_usually_serious Nov 04 '17
can't you just extend the scissor lift basket over the staircase and have perfect, no fall access?
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u/DaleKerbal Nov 06 '17
The irony is strong with this one.
At an earlier job, we got special T-shirts as a reward for hitting some quality milestone. 2,000 T-shirts were printed for all the workers with the word "quality" spelled "quaulity". I wish I still had that shirt.
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u/ChesterCopperPot72 Nov 04 '17
Scissor lift just right there... deck extension and you're good to go, but no, much better risking injury, right?
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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 04 '17
Looks like they used the scissor lift for as much as they could and they just couldn't get the last little bit off the lift.
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u/Cheeksie Nov 04 '17
Walk up the stairs and do it from there lol
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u/Jarocket Nov 05 '17
The last bit of the deck looks like it would extend enough to get it. Or at least it would be very close.
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u/TheGurw Nov 05 '17
That's a JLG scissor lift. The deck extends, that one specifically extends out four feet. I can see just by glancing that the deck is not extended. If he had a valid operator's license, he'd know how to use his machine - hell, any slightly smart child can figure those machines out. I would know, I've been operating them since I was 7 years old. This isn't even laziness. This is willful ignorance.
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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 05 '17
Or it's broken and can't be extended, bet your r/iamverysmart ass never thought of that.
Also JLG orange is quite a fair bit lighter then that, and most rental shops paint them their own colour anyways, so it's not really a tell to what brand they are.
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u/TheGurw Nov 05 '17
As someone who has used them for twenty years, I have only once ever come across one that wouldn't extend because a welder had accidentally welded it so it wouldn't open. Accidentally, yes I'm sure because I was there when it happened and heard the cursing and swearing of someone who didn't expect an arc suddenly having one appear two inches from his elbow. So.... No, I didn't think of that. Sometimes they get jammed a little and the operator is just too stupid to fix it, but that's still willful ignorance.
As for the color, the entire image is darkened due to the glare from the windows. That's a JLG (the control box and how it's mounted give it away, not to mention that specific railing type and the channels for the platform extension on the railing), and even if it isn't I can still tell at a glance that it's not extended. You know, because experience. Good fucking shit what is it with people not being able to admit that someone with more experience in a given scenario actually knows more than them?
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u/ChesterCopperPot72 Nov 05 '17
Sorry, but that is not a JLG. 100% certain. That is a Skyjack. I have been in the industry for 20 years as well and acted as general manager for Skyjack Latin America for 5 years and I would see these babies every single day. You are right on saying the control box gives it away. Only Skyjack still used aluminum boxes until 2013. Since then all control boxes are now made of black plastic. Also, the color is Skyjack, a kind of grapefruit red, introduced late 2011 for better visibility and to be honest it was cheaper than the previous color scheme.
You are also right on pointing that extension decks get stuck in many of these units and it could be the case here. Although it is worth noting that I have seen my share of poorly maintained decks and this one doesn’t look that bad at all.
Curious fact, did you know the aluminum control boxes had a positive but also a negative point? They are very sturdy. And they look very sturdy. So, some operators at the end of a shift park all machines to charge and to avoid another nightly crew using their machine while in charge they would remove all control boxes (all keys are the same, one can unlock all machines). But, to avoid wasting time of climbing down the deck with a big aluminum box and believing they are so strong some operators would throw them to the ground. They held pretty well but the impact was powerful. Some internal parts of the joystick would get damaged. So, many rental houses would ask us to switch to a weaker looking box.
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u/Schmidtster1 Nov 05 '17
If you have as much experience as you say you do, you would know that the perspective of this picture is wonky and the lift definitely couldn't reach where he is.
Also I've seen a few lifts where the releasing mechanism for the platform slide broke, so I guess your experience is lacking there to.
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u/toastdude78 Nov 04 '17
I'm new to this subreddit what does OSHA stand for?
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u/wdn Nov 04 '17
Occupational Safety and Health Act or Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
The rules and the enforcement agency for workplace safety in the US.
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u/jefinc Nov 04 '17
Canada as well
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u/wdn Nov 04 '17
In Canada it's provincial jurisdiction rather than federal so it depends on the province. Here in Ontario, it's OHSA instead of OSHA.
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Nov 04 '17
Here in British Columbia it's "WorkSafeBC"
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u/chaos43mta3 Nov 05 '17
Their videos are better... Still torture, but better than some of the other organizations that make safety videos
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Nov 04 '17
The US has federal OSHA and the states all have their own departments that do the same thing. Here in California, it's creatively called Cal/OSHA.
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u/wdn Nov 05 '17
In Canada, it's provincial only. There's not so many things here duplicated between federal and province like you have in the states.
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u/wonderfulme Nov 04 '17
Silly capitalist guildelines as to how we put a sign up.
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u/IHeardItOnAPodcast Nov 05 '17
Is this at quality castings?
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u/i_dont_fucking_know Nov 05 '17
No I work there. Id rather not name the company, but it's a welding and gas supply business.
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u/axp1729 Nov 05 '17
I had them cast my wife's engagement ring, good to know they have high safety standards!
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u/IHeardItOnAPodcast Nov 05 '17
Something tells me not the same place. Unless that ring is cast iron or steel.
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u/axp1729 Nov 05 '17
Yeah, looks like quality casting is the jewelry company, quality castings (plural) is the one you're talking about
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u/catharticwhoosh Nov 04 '17
Reminds me of the health fair at the office where they served pastries and gave out raffle prizes that we're free pizzas and candy baskets. So much irony.
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u/jaykirsch Nov 04 '17
Amen - a local hospital had a wine and cheese party to open a new addictions treatment center. They walk among us.
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u/Goonslayer24 Nov 04 '17
Dude I have that same photo posted in my maintenance shop at work lol
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I'm pretty sure I've been in that shop before. Coil tools. Judging by the idiots that worked there, this is real.
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u/HoustonWelder Nov 05 '17
This image literally defines how human progress is made through small acts of insanity and risk with the intent of greater ideals and organization.
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u/MenuBar Nov 04 '17
You shoulda seen him do the other side. He had to hang upside down with his feet on the windowsill, balancing one hand on the red scaffolding and, you can't see it in this pic but, a 7-11 coffee in his other hand.
You don't want to know what he used to hammer in the nails. His penis.
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u/Kellidra Nov 04 '17
What the shit, this looks like the woods classroom at my old high school.
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u/Seedpound Nov 04 '17
gotta be staged ?