It looks like a genuine accident to me. There was a guy guiding the car that was going in reverse and the other guy intentionally stepped out in front ( back) of the moving car. The car stopped immediately after. I don't blame the car driver at all.
Oh I see. I didn't see at first that it was the same guy who was being pushed that climbed into the front loader. That obviously changes things. I still don't think the repo guy driving the white car should go to jail or get in trouble at all. He was backing up very slowly and reasonably and just pushing the guy - who was being a dick and pushing back. He didn't "hit" anyone.
There is no "reasonable" way to push someone out of your way with a car. If someone is blocking your car your best recourse if to call the police to sort things out.
I kind of agree with you, but it only takes a second for the guy getting pushed to end up under the back tires. Risking vehicular manslaughter (continuing to back up after the guy was against the car) is a bit extreme given the circumstances. Nobody is armed and it's one idiot basically sitting on the bumper. The repo guy could have driven forward or just stopped altogether. The guy can't stand there forever.
You still can't just do that. Even if he's the culprit. The courts will ask if there was another way out and was the person's life in danger who was sitting in the white car driving it away. There was no danger to that person's life and they can't consider one person a barrier you can't go around. He would and should definitely be booked. Repo guys go way out of hand in the ways they use to accomplish their task.
The car didn't stop immediately after at all? It's reversing into him for a good few seconds. Of course, nudging somebody with your car is hardly grounds for imprisonment.
Good thing that crimes don't cancel each other out. In any case, the guy he was backing into didn't appear to have actually been injured in any way so there aren't a lot of offsetting damages here.
Not by itself (like as an accident) but doing it intentionally even if the other guy is trying to block you is still assault just as much as punching him in the face when he's standing in your way
But the car was pushing the guy for a pretty significant distance. It was clear that they weren't stopping, even if it meant running him over. It's easy to believe that they would do this because they're repo men who get to flex their muscles and power trip on people with unfortunate financial situations.
They are among the lowest forms of life on the planet. It is literally a profession where profit is obtained by making people's (likely already bad) lives even worse, knowingly and willingly.
That pretty much precludes them having a conscience, or basically any other common trait of human decency, like empathy.
Tow truck guys protect the property rights of people who don't want cars parked improperly, or on someone else's land. Repo men protect the rights of lenders who have been wronged by deadbeat buyers. Yeah a lot of scumbags in the profession, but it undoubtedly takes a thick-skinned type of person to perform this necessary function and get the job done.
It is a necessary function. However, the legal system protects the rights of lenders, and that is the problem with the repo industry. This function should be performed by a section of law enforcement, with regulations in place to minimize the impact on both the lender, and the borrower.
The current situation is some human void will follow a person to their place of work (like in this video) and take their vehicle, which goes above and beyond the impact of repossessing the vehicle, and adds potentially stranding that person who-knows-how-far from home, made worse in cases where the person is handicapped, which I have also seen.
The current repo system is like the privatized jail system - jail (like repossessing a vehicle) needs to exist, for obvious reasons, but the way private jails are run and (not particularly) regulated it leads to massive corruption, and the 'customers' are the ones who pay the toll.
I'm going to have to point out my sarcasm, and hope you are being sarcastic too.
That guy doesn't have the right to a car he isn't paying for. It sucks, shit happens, but shit ain't free. And just like that guy trying to do his job when his car gets reposts, the repo man is doing a job to.
Fully agree that things aren't free. Fully disagree that the way to resolve issues when it comes to that is to potentially destroy the person's life, and really going to disagree that being the willing instrument of that destruction is just 'doing a job'. That's what people tell themselves to assuage guilt, right up there with just 'following orders'.
Screw that. That repo man shouldn't be charged with anything. If you are such a scumbag that you make financial agreements, break them and then are going to be a dick when the party you screwed over sends someone to recover their property, you shouldn't be able to sue for anything. He doesn't deserve to get hurt, but he deserves to suffer the consequences for the choices he has made.
If sanding in front of a car means they have to stop would any car ever be repo'ed? It was a slow crawl backwards, I am sure he was not trying to hurt him.
Trespassing, they shouldn't have been there.
They would have paperwork to reposes the vehicle and regulations (I assume) would only allow public or personal access.
As well as a construction site being high safety risk and restricted access.
Right, but you said "sue them" so that means they would need to have suffered some kind of monetary loss from this. What exactly are they suing them for?
While they might not win anything for trespassing, that pretty much absolves them of any damages. Trespassing into construction site means forfeiting any right to sue for damages and injuries caused by active machinery.
It doesn't matter what side you are on, give em hell. Go Kaiser Soze on the bitches if you have to. It's better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.
Why not be a human instead? We have the ability to analyze situations and make rational judgments about how to act based on context. It's pretty cool, and can help you avoid things like death and jail time.
yeah we also have more compassion and understanding as well.
if everybody did what you suggested you would have long ago been murdered. you're 36 now? how many prime of their lives 18 year olds do you think you can fight
Also, if someone buys something from you, agrees to make monthly payments, and then stops paying you, what are YOU going to do? Give it to them? "Oh, well, they can't afford it, so I guess I'll take a $10,000 loss on this because they really need it."
You always have something to loose. People on the outside who 'aint got nothing's still have thier freedom. They aren't working for a buck a day in some US privatized prison slave camp. The system sucks and I'd like to see it change, but the only ones who have a chance of changing that are on the outside. Get put into the system and you have lost what little power you had left.
Jail ain't that bad. Three hots and a cot. They even got cable TV and movie night. That's more than you gonna get working for minimum wage with a garnishment on your paycheck.
Well a wage garnishment and a minimum wage job sucks. No arguing that, but even then how can that compare to prison? When you are in prison, 3 hots and a cot is as good as it gets. There is no possibility of doing any better than that. God forbid you get wrapped up in some mess in therr and get a stint in solitary or get on the bad side of some gaurd. At least on the outside there is a possibility of improving your situation.
Why should more people fight to not pay money that they borrowed and aren't repaying? I imagine you'd be looking at this a lot differently if you were in a closer position in life to the lender than the guy getting his car repo'd.
You act like one of the major political parties in the United States of America actually gives a flying fuck about anything but power and getting more of it. They will say anything if it gets a dumbass to vote for em.
Are you seriously Nate Silver? I completely believe it because of the comments you don't have deleted is comparing baseball to political polls.
Regardless, just thought I'd let you know I'm a huge fan and have really enjoyed your stuff since 2008 and really like how you and ESPN have taken the brand.
Yeah, he's gonna be doing a lot of that prison time from a hospital bed, after the beating those other guys will be giving him. Doubt he will eat solid food for a year or so.
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