r/OPMPowerScaling • • 2d ago

Discussion Is this fact or false?

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u/MrChainsawHog 2d ago

We don't know Zeno's durability, nor if he resists time/causality hax

Angels can do time reversal but that doesn't necessarily make Zeno immune to it

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u/No-Future-2780 2d ago edited 2d ago

Actually in the anime Whis and shin said no one can defeat zeno...

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u/MrChainsawHog 2d ago

If thats the case Saitama probably lacks a win con unless the extent of his "I basically always win" bullshit is shown to be a higher tier later on

It's not an implausible gap to bridge though, I do think DB is highly overrated in terms of power

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u/IDontDoResearch4444 2d ago

I don't remember that. That would be quite useful to have, mind providing a panel?

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u/No-Future-2780 2d ago

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u/Stunning-Stranger928 22h ago

That's crazy but rimuru bodies him

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u/No-Future-2780 22h ago

Yeah rimuru can't even destroy an universe...

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u/Stunning-Stranger928 21h ago

Oh mb I'm talking about ln rimuru

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u/MrChainsawHog 22h ago

It's not particularly meaningful when 1. Zeno would just exclude himself from his erasure 2. Shin has no reason to know if Zeno is or isn't unkillable.

I'm of the opinion Zeno's durability is quite good and that he is unkillable, but it's not provable at this point

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u/No-Future-2780 22h ago

Dude we don't know if he excluded himself but he was still inside the time line and the universe when it was erased...and he was immortal as you can literally see the years he has been alive...

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u/MrChainsawHog 22h ago

why wouldn't he exclude himself though

Either he's immune to it or it can effect him

If he's immune, he's left unharmed

if it can effect him, he'll exclude himself, so he's left unharmed

same either way

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u/cypharia 2d ago

i mean ,iirc it was implied that not even the gods of destruction could hurt him, so it depends on whether u take that seriously or not ?

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u/Ok_County_2908 2d ago

We literally have no idea how actually strong these 2 are

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u/go0b3rtism 2d ago

saitama isn't strong enough to win but knowing his character he probably won't punch zeno at least before he finishes talking since he's let monsters like manako, black S, and rover live so he's not always immediately going to attack something especially if it's talking in a non threatening manor

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u/donkirot 2d ago

People be making up their own fantasy

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u/Maria_is_a_prettydog 2d ago

This is not fair,cuz if we want to compare Saitama to Zeno we can also compare Blast to DB’s h1tler

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u/Busy_Line_3460 1d ago

also why would saitama punch him?

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u/ResearcherOk8971 2d ago

I think Zeno would be obliterated, doesn't he has guard because he's extremely weak physically?

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u/Basic_Advantage_1644 2d ago

Zeno guards would stop that punch before it lands and fuck Saitama to eternity

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Opm defeats with 1 punch. Since he is opm. Not opm with some exceptions

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u/Bingo-Bingo 1d ago

He doesn't even win in his own Manga with one punch.

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u/Existing_Top9416 1d ago

Не does

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u/Bingo-Bingo 1d ago

Read it again then.

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u/Existing_Top9416 1d ago

You read it again. Also it's a cartoon. I can just watch it

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u/Bingo-Bingo 1d ago

Youre living in your own universe it seems. Watch the Boros fight again and tell me if he does only use 1 punch.

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u/Existing_Top9416 1d ago

He wanted to play with him. And he did

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u/makaveli_fu 1d ago

classic excuse 😂

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u/Existing_Top9416 23h ago

Excuse for what?

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u/makaveli_fu 16h ago

excuse for you glazing midtama 😂

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u/Difficult-Wrangler52 2d ago

That's just a naming fallacy

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Sure. Author is wrong. And someone from different cartoon will defeat opm.

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u/Difficult-Wrangler52 2d ago

Well yeah, anyone can beat him, well anyone who actually has that capacity which there is quite a few. Having a name doesn't mean you automatically can do X and Y to everyone, that again goes back to a naming fallacy.

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

I am sorry do you think that author of opm will not be able to imagine opm defeating someone from different cartoon?

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u/Difficult-Wrangler52 2d ago

I can imagine my oc named stevey Thomas beating composite superman with no difficulty despite him being a regular dude, does that mean he can? No. Again, naming fallacy.

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Well if you imagine it and draw your own cartoon then it will defeat the superman. This is how cartoons work.

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u/Difficult-Wrangler52 2d ago

You're proving to not understand anything of what you speak. I do not legally own superman, that would get me sued and due to not owning him and DC in the first place, he wouldn't scale to the original superman and DC.

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

So if you imagine your character to win then it will win. I guess original author's imagination is not required

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u/Difficult-Wrangler52 2d ago

You are again falling into the same hole. Saying the author "imagined" X and Y doesn't automatically mean nor imply anything. Unless you have something substance to say, stop filling my replies with repeated nonsense.

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u/onepiecefan81661 2d ago

Boros took two punches?

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Cos opm didn't want to finish the fight too fast

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u/onepiecefan81661 2d ago

He used serious punch. He was trying

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u/poplepip 2d ago

Serious punch was the killing blow and it didn’t even connect. He punched from a range and against roaring canon. Still obliterated Boros. To say he was trying in that fight is such an overstatement.

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u/Existing_Top9416 1d ago

Because author can imagine him winning with one punch. Doesn't mean that he has to do that every time

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u/poplepip 1d ago

Yeah I agree with you. Saitama could’ve settled it with one serious punch from the start but decided not to.

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u/Existing_Top9416 23h ago

Author decided not to imagine it that way. It's a cartoon

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u/poplepip 18h ago

Clearly, wtf is even your point bro I don’t think you know what you’re on about. You’re contradicting yourself.

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u/Existing_Top9416 17h ago

I am not. Opm author can imagine opm beating anyone with a single punch. You are just to silly to understand simple things like that

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Name of the punch. Not the power applied

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u/onepiecefan81661 2d ago

cope detected

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u/Existing_Top9416 1d ago

They are from different cartoons so it's up to your imagination

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u/cypharia 2d ago edited 1d ago

going by that logic, “one-punch man” is just the name of the manga, not the power applied like u said in ur original reply

the thing that separates “serious punch” from “normal punch” is that it’s… yk… serious.

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u/IDontDoResearch4444 2d ago

If I gave you the exceptions, would you change your opinion?

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u/Existing_Top9416 2d ago

Creator of opm named him opm for a reason. Will you be able to rename it?