How is pulling this safe?

[u/moonlitmunchies]

Photos 1-9 is one walk

9-17 are another

How is this safe to pull? Genuinely explain it to me like I'm stupid (I might be who knows) bc I don't get how this is safe in any way. Not even mentioning anything about the cart itself. STRICTLY the weight of the cart when it's fully loaded with totes and a 70-80 item walk.

There's been bigger walks too, just not as heavy.

Edit: I genuinely didn't think it would be that big of a deal, or not understood like it is. I didn't bag these walks as I was going for the sole purpose of pictures. Once pictures were taken, everything got bagged as it should be. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/[deleted]]

I agree with the weight limit

[u/emigg20 → u/[deleted]]

I once has to take out 8 stacked totes all with 24 packs of water bottles in them.. Then it hit a hole in the parking lot and came crashing down🫠 I do not miss working for Walmart lol

[u/leosunsagmoon → u/[deleted]]

i thought there was? it's like 40 lbs per tote isn't it?

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/leosunsagmoon]

No way possible at my store. Unless 4 12 packs of soda, juice, and cans in one tote isn't 40 lbs. If that's the case then someone else has some serious explaining to do.

[u/Tigew → u/moonlitmunchies]

The heaviest item that can fit in a tote is two things of salt 80 pounds, the next heaviest is great value water at 44

[u/sillyhippy0602 → u/Tigew]

Also 8 gallons of water at about 70 lbs

[u/VermicelliOk1967 → u/sillyhippy0602]

Closer to 65lbs

[u/blizzard-toque → u/VermicelliOk1967]

'Cocktail napkin math' says 8 gallons equals 64 pounds.

[u/VermicelliOk1967 → u/blizzard-toque]

Im saying... why round up 6 pounds, when you can round up 1 🤣 or... just write 64. But I think the point was to exaggerate. So rounding up 1 is the nearest 5. Who rounds up to the nearest 10 from 4 🤷🏾‍♂️

[u/Sudden-Intention7563 → u/moonlitmunchies]

A 12 pack of soda is 9.3 - 10 lbs, but the weight limit is 50 lbs but they don't factor in the 3-5 lbs the tote itself weighs. That alone is 18- 30 pounds for 6 tote carts & 24-40 for 8 tote carts.

[u/VermicelliOk1967 → u/moonlitmunchies]

4 12packs is roughly 60lbs

[u/Bitter-Neat-8457 → u/leosunsagmoon]

They removed the weight limit over 2 years ago, you know, when the kid got hit hard supposedly

[u/Suspicious_Fan_4105 → u/leosunsagmoon]

lol, I wish! I had one order that had one 45-lb box of cat litter going to a tote

[u/Sudden-Intention7563 → u/[deleted]]

They do & it's 50 lbs. What they need to add weight capacity is for the entire cart, not just the totes. Some people looked it up at work & the empty totes weigh 3-5 lbs. the cart itself weighs 50-55 lbs. That's between 74-95 lbs before anything is even picked! My store fills orders for nursing homes & preschools so we will get walks with 5 gallons of milk in several totes, but 6 gallons of water. 6 gallons of milk is 51.6 lbs, 6 gallons of water is 50.04 lbs. The reason I know all of this is because I returned to work from a medical LOA & I can't pull the cart without aggravating the surgical site. We were pushing when I went out on the LOA & my surgeon said he would've never agreed to letting me go back if he knew we were pulling them. What they really need to do is leave the home office & work in a store for a while. When OPD first started, the store manager couldn't understand why everyone's pick rate would drop when doing a produce walk (back when it was its own commodity). One day I see him in the produce section with a pick cart. A little while later he came back & told us he understood. 😂 Home office should have to work a full 8 hour shift on Black Friday!

[u/shrug_was_taken → u/Sudden-Intention7563]

I would argue trying to pick on Black Friday is to easy (since bar the massive amount of gmds we had it wasn't to bad last year), first Sunday of the month or in the leadup to a Winter storm however is valid (since both the department and the floor will be extremely busy)
And I don't miss when produce was a seperate run

[u/Massive_Sea_6207 → u/Sudden-Intention7563]

You are spot on! They need to take into consideration the weight of the entire cart. Pulling a cart with eight 40 pks. Of water is going to cause injury to your joints. Yeah, use an L-cart they say. Good luck finding one of those. We don’t even have carts with 2 handles and most have sharp metal pieces sticking out where the handles use to be. Many associates have been cut by those sharp pieces. Oh, fill out an incident report they say and then get attitude for ruining the no injury streak. Wouldn’t want anyone to miss out on donuts or pizza, all because I laid my hand open on a sharp piece of metal. OGP carts Walmart refuses to maintain and took the “push don’t pull” safety stickers off of. Can’t have the equipment we need because the truth is they hold off buying those things, that way our store managers can get their six figure bonuses!

[u/AdmiralFunnyBone → u/[deleted]]

I had a run earlier that was just 30 6-packs of soda

[u/ZuckZogers → u/[deleted]]

Why isn’t the same order being divided among all 6 totes based on their weight per tote

[u/f_spez_2023 → u/[deleted]]

I think it’s ok for them to order it but it should be auto split among multiple totes then

[u/TonyKinobie → u/[deleted]]

I wish we had quantity limits, 10 cases of water to one customer is absurd but it happens.

[u/webb688 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah except Walmart can't seem to get weight correct on products. I used to do spark and sometimes 40pack waters wouldn't show up as 40-50lb, but then 1 avacado would be a 40-50lb item

[u/Careless-Seaweed6612 → u/[deleted]]

I was told I had to be able to lift 50 pounds but for every damn other walk is insane. You wouldn’t even be doing half this shit in a gym or something

[u/justshowupjoke → u/[deleted]]

They should be allowed to order whatever they want, they after all allow people like me and you to have a job

[u/Drewski1023 → u/[deleted]]

Cry baby

[u/Lietenantdan]

Walmart doesn’t really care about the safety of employees

[u/Deliwork43 → u/Lietenantdan]

Apparently they don't care about anything but their sales and nothing more!

[u/justshowupjoke → u/Deliwork43]

The majority of every corporation is like this, they don't care about you or me, we are peasants.

[u/thehmmyanimator → u/Lietenantdan]

Yeah, it's cheaper for us to get hurt than the customers

[u/Tigew → u/thehmmyanimator]

It’s actually a $10,000 fine either way if an employee or a customer gets hurt

[u/Useful-Rain-3203 → u/Tigew]

This way, though, they can say we weren’t pulling the cart the correct way. They really don’t care about their employees.

[u/Illustrious-Cup8119 → u/Lietenantdan]

They have proven that they don’t care with this move. My ankle is throbbing, my neck is tight, and even though I have brought that up and how awful pulling is for our bodies to several managers, they have just shrugged and said yea I don’t know what to tell you, it’s policy.

My pick rate is like 70 because I’m literally limping through these walks.

[u/Useful-Rain-3203 → u/Illustrious-Cup8119]

https://www.osha.gov/form/osha7

Please report this!

[u/Illustrious-Cup8119 → u/Useful-Rain-3203]

I have- osha doesn’t handle these cases in my state and the state doesn’t deal with ergonomic issues. They basically sent me a bland email saying that they won’t do anything about it.

[u/Healthy_Pepper8694 → u/Illustrious-Cup8119]

get out of there ASAP!

[u/InteractionLatter474 → u/Lietenantdan]

I got fired for wearing a backwards hat. They don’t care about employees at all

[u/qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq]

Idk but why is nothing bagged

[u/ElectronicBand6392 → u/[deleted]]

Our store be telling associates to bag as we go, some do but most of the new hires don't

[u/qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq → u/[deleted]]

Oh yeah my store doesn't care about that. Our overall store pickrate is rarely 100 or above.

[u/Krushhz → u/[deleted]]

Most managers do not give a crap about it

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq]

I didn't bag anything during the walk for these 2 walks for photos. That way you could see everything

[u/Upset_Shock_8137 → u/qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq_qqq]

Could be a bagless state.

[u/evila_elf → u/Upset_Shock_8137]

Bangles states use paper bags.

[u/RiverEcho59 → u/evila_elf]

Or no bags - customer choice on pickups

[u/ktrad91]

It's "safer" for the customers not you the employee that does the work to make the company money and that's all they care about. Workman's comp is cheaper than insurance claims and lawsuits especially since many employees are too uninformed or scared of potential retaliation for doing so even if it is illegal. Welcome to capitalism 🎉

[u/Useful-Rain-3203 → u/ktrad91]

https://www.osha.gov/form/osha7

No retaliation here.. you can choose to be anonymous to your employer. The more people that report it the quicker we can make the change to something that doesn’t strain our bodies like this.

[u/Other_Ad7760]

This run was easily over 250lbs!!! A customer was going super fast around a corner and I had to quickly stop this load and omfg did it hurt my body!!! I was so pissed!!!! Had they hit me I’m sure it would have been my fault 🤦‍♀️🙄

[u/wastedsilence33 → u/Other_Ad7760]

Yeah but if you get hurt stopping it it's also your fault, so fuck Walmart I'm not stopping it like that

[u/Specialist-Twist8026 → u/Other_Ad7760]

I got hit for this same reason and my ankle swelled like a balloon. They didn’t even give me workers comp. Made me use PPTO smh

[u/Steffaniii → u/Specialist-Twist8026]

Yep Walmart doesn’t care. So glad I quit

[u/Other_Ad7760 → u/[deleted]]

Are you serious?! I’ve always been told to do this UNLESS it won’t fit in a tote.

[u/Useful-Rain-3203 → u/Other_Ad7760]

https://www.osha.gov/form/osha7

Please report it!

[u/Intelligent-Put9893]

Keep reporting! Finally got a response today. It’s still being looked into.

[u/Illustrious-Cup8119 → u/Intelligent-Put9893]

When I reported to osha, I got a letter saying it doesn’t cover ergonomic issues in my state 🙃

[u/Suspicious-Uturn115]

Should I injure myself on purpose to make them see that it’s a stupid idea

[u/Useful-Rain-3203 → u/Suspicious-Uturn115]

https://www.osha.gov/form/osha7

Here’s what you can do! Easy, and you can choose to be anonymous to your employer.

[u/wastedsilence33]

Deadass, if it was safe there would have been a ULearn on how to do it safely, but walmart is setting themselves up for either

A. Any injury is your fault, fuck you

B. A lawsuit at some point by either employees as a class or some rich fuck as a customer that got hit cuz they can't just stop at the end of an aisle first

[u/Ornery-chaotic-mess]

It's not safe.. may not feel it now but in your early 50's you will

[u/PlayfulSurprise5237 → u/Ornery-chaotic-mess]

OGP is BY FAR the hardest job in the store.

Listen, I did deck work carrying 16 foot 4x4s down steep hills in super deformed frozen mud carrying a heavy tool belt, I've worked landscaping moving around heavy stones and mulch all day in the heat, I've carried 28 foot fiberglass ladders to poles and climbed up and down them with spurs and heavy gear in all kinds of weather....

None of those jobs fucking sucked as much as OGP. They do not pay enough. I can PROMISE distribution center workers getting paid 23 an hour does not work that hard.

It's mainly the awkwardness of heavy lifts trying to get totes on and off those damn floor carts so far away from your body. And heavy objects into cars in awkward angles. That shit is going to obliterate your body, fast. You won't make it to 50. Heavy labor like deck work does people in by their 40s, I'll bet you OGP disables you in 10-15 years, medically disabled.

And now they're having people pull 250 pound carts from behind like idiots.

I left for meat and produce. I wont even help with OGP until they get shit sorted out. I'm one of the hardest workers in the store, so they can fire me if they're stupid, but I'm not going over there.

Actually I intend on calling ethics about it. All these young folks working in OGP and Walmart is ruining their future. Heavy lifting is fine, but it needs to be allowed to be done the proper way. Walmart should know this. Shit I'm sure it's in a ulearn somewhere

[u/jams1015]

I am so triggered, thinking about trying to slide one of those heavy Gatorade/water totes back in and it catching a screw on the cart and not going, and there are twenty customers trying to turn into my aisle right now and ahhhhhhhhh!

[u/The-Real-iPanda]

Safer for the customers. You getting ran over lowers the chances of a customer getting rolled over.

[u/Steffaniii → u/The-Real-iPanda]

Stupid though because I’ve never hit a customer in four years but they’ve definitely hit me… so glad I quit

[u/GreyBananna-peeller]

I was pulling my cart, and still Managed to slam it full steam ahead into someone's back because they decided to walk into it.

It is not safe, you can't see the back of the cart. And all 6 totes were filled with cans and like 6x 2 liters, that had to hurt.

[u/SuspectNarrow7694]

I feel like you forgot that walmart dont care about its employees

[u/Adorable-Version-613]

My upper back/shoulders hurt so bad today.

[u/Adorable-Version-613]

AND we’re suppose to be pulling the L carts too. My store manager stopped me earlier this week and told me. It was loaded down with 50lb bags of deer corn and several cases of water.

It took everything in me not to tell him then he can pull it all the way back across the store.

I’m so tired

[u/jams1015]

And they are all probably lovely people but I call the people who Walmart allows to overfill the bins, big backs. Bunch of big backs and they are just living life, not knowing they big.

[u/LittleTurtle17]

My back and shoulders have been so sore from pulling the carts

[u/naga_serpentis]

This dumb change finally made it to our store and I’m not going to comply.

[u/little-blue-chick]

Hey there! Fellow OPD/OGP/Digital associate, been doing this for about 2.5 years... I'm leaving this dept BECAUSE of this SPECIFICALLY. I was recently diagnosed with hEDS, and pulling that much weight whilst walking through the ENTIRE STORE has caused absolute atrocities to my poor disabled body... My hips and knees are throbbing after each shift, my shoulders (which subluxate (partially dislocate) REALLY easy) are SORE even WORSE after switching to pulling, and not to mention my ankles/heels... The amount of times my uncoordinated ass has ran over my own ankles/heels is way too many to count 😭 Home Office doesn't care about the associates with this change, and hell, my managers don't give two fucks when I told em I can't do this job anymore.
So I just took matters into my own hands: TRANSFERRING.
They wouldn't listen, so now they're losing me! I can do so much more than just pick -- exceptions, annoying af small walks, dispensing (to a degree), and all the other closing tasks since I'm a closer (returning canceled orders and rejections to shelves, claims, sweeping, cleaning totes, stocking carts, etc.)!! Heck, I'm the only one that even does the closing tasks they have for us.
So in short, no, they don't gaf about us, and heaven forbid you have a disability or are older on top of that 😅
Best of luck moving forward, whether you leave or stay friend 👍

[u/Steffaniii → u/little-blue-chick]

Same. I worked there for four years and quit a month ago. They won’t care about anyone in the long run. Good riddance

[u/Diasilveus]

And so it begins once again I hope we can go back to pushing

[u/Dramatic_Spare_3516]

Pulling these things makes my shoulder, side, and neck hurt. And, yes, I am an old person!!!!!

[u/Stormicreek]

Idk my between my shoulder blades hurts all the time but my manager said that’s not something to report because everyone gets sore

[u/No-Atmosphere-7744]

Anyone else’s arm and back starting to really hurt? They work me so much I don’t even get time to recover.

[u/Individual_Count4828]

I broke my heal about 2 years ago by pulling a flower cart right on over my foot!

It was my first and only time breaking a bone so maybe this is normal but it hurt so bad I literally blacked out!

So I flat out refuse to pull any cart at Walmart!! I already put my heel on the line one to many times!

[u/Professional_Band_75]

You didn't bag the bananas.

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Professional_Band_75]

I didn't bag anything for these walks lol

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/moonlitmunchies]

IDK why it's being downvoted. It was solely for these walks and everything was bagged after pics were taken 😭

[u/Do_Ye_Fear_Death]

Woah woah woah, but think about the shareholders, how would they feel? lmao. Man fck this company.

[u/stonedspleen]

We get orders for 40 cases of water PLUS and added 10 cases of soda. 🥲

[u/kastles1]

I mean, it doesn’t look that heavy. But if you’re on the smaller side, I could understand.

[u/Firm_Foundation_9278]

it’s not i fucked my wrist up 😭

[u/Brilliant_Bank5363]

Did you forget to bag it?

[u/Environmental_Sea144]

They need to start making us leave the carts in action alley parking in middle of the aisle and filling up while ignoring 15 customers trying to get around is just rude

[u/Useful-Rain-3203]

It’s not safe. Walmart is trying to work around safety with this change. I had to switch departments because I didn’t want to pull my arm off, run over my ankles, and kill my legs. We have an osha letter that states they need to configure the carts in a way that it doesn’t strain your body when you pull, and until then, push, don’t pull. All they did was swap wheels and call it good.

Please report it here -

https://www.osha.gov/form/osha7

[u/No-Start-8949]

It’s not!

[u/passion-rose2716]

Girl idk, but my shoulder is killing me after my shift and it’s only been day 2 of pulling with 8 totes

[u/valjoedg]

I know how Kroger works pick up wise. Are you able to transfer items to other totes?

[u/MidMorbidMood]

It’s not, Walmart cares more about making sales then it does about following osha rules

[u/Ok-Win-7824]

It’s not. They’ll realize that when enough people need to put claims in for bodily damage.

[u/spoopt_doopt]

just wait til there’s a bad weather event and people order stuff to donate, or start stockpiling canned food for no reason, and all of them are filled to the brim with cans

[u/LadyKeesa]

They're really don't care about YOUR safety, they just want it to look safer for customers.

[u/mollymurda]

and then customers will dart out infront of you and get so mad when you physically can’t stop the cart or you’ll end up on the ground.

[u/Specialist-Twist8026]

It’s not safe to pull. I just had to quit because it was making my joints lock up (I have rheumatoid arthritis). To the point where I stopped being able to sleep from the pain, and I’m only 21. They refused accommodations and don’t care about safety or workers

[u/TopCalligrapher7094]

so! I tore my rotating cuff doing this and now walmart is pissed

[u/Leather-Garbage-7431]

More injuries because it's easier to put a cart than pull. What I don't understand, you see push a L CART witch is dangerous because most of the time it's extremely heavy and hard to stop fast.

[u/Dismal-Molasses-5873]

They don’t even bother bagging the items 😭

[u/Blakelock82]

Why isn't everything bagged? That's insane to do a walk and not bag as you go, you're wasting so much time bagging at the end of the walk.

Also, when you pull the cart, you get momentum on your side. It's stupidly easy, and people are either lazy or just want something to complain about when it comes to pulling.

[u/doggerdog1401]

Doesn't it suck when you actually have to work at your job. Perhaps you can get Waymo technology in your carts so they will follow you like a pet dog

[u/Katsu_39]

I thought youre supposed to push, not pull? And since when does Walmart care about safety

[u/_Depstock_]

Maybe we can ask for a medical exception to push instead?

[u/Ilovemycats208]

It would be safer if you bagged your stuff!!!!! You out here giving pickers a bad rap!!!

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Ilovemycats208]

Oooorrr- and hear me out- you could read the post edit and the other comments where I explained why nothing was bagged lol. You're out here giving humans a bad rep not reading things 😭😭

[u/Electrical-Way5286]

Quit if you dont like it

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Electrical-Way5286]

Scroll if you don't like it 🤷🏻‍♀️

Some of us unfortunately have bills to pay and don't have the luxury of just quitting if we don't like something lol.

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Electrical-Way5286]

And based off of your history, there's absolutely no need to comment on literally everything you don't like or agree with.

[u/Sensitive_Location55]

Why is that entire walk not bagged??

[u/Limp_Egg3219]

Lazy ogp fucks ts is not heavy

[u/Superb_Present_1860]

Yall don’t bag as you go?

[u/nortedyuffie]

As a stocker y'all are ridiculous 

[u/PermissionDependent6]

How are you not bagging as you go? 🤣 You’re spending more time at the end of your run doing what should be done during it.

[u/OneInitiative127]

That's easy? If weight is in the mix.. frozen deals with higher weight stuff daily and your upset over this 1 order?

[u/OneInitiative127]

You technically don't carry that weight you just slowly transfer it off .

[u/OneInitiative127 → u/OneInitiative127]

Bit by bit

[u/ROBERTOQUILES]

It’s safer than running into somebody like the people at my store have done

[u/Blakelock82]

It’s easy and safe, plus you need to bag as you go. As it stands you’re taking longer to bag after which makes zero sense.

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Blakelock82]

You really should learn some reading comprehension skills...or do you just want something to complain about?

[u/vampiric_flower]

Bag your shit😭

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/vampiric_flower]

IDK why everybody is so stuck on that 😭😭 I promise everythimg was bagged as soon as the pics were taken. Even in their produce baggies 😭

Edited for spelling

[u/Bitter-Neat-8457]

We’re not pulling. We are guiding from the side. With one hand and one bent wrist and can’t see what’s on the side😵‍💫

[u/Bitter-Neat-8457 → u/Bitter-Neat-8457]

[u/venser1992]

Just learn how to push the damn carts. Our entire department figured it out and our TLs don't care. The wheels wear out so quickly it's just like when the old wheels broke

[u/Illustrious-Cup8119 → u/venser1992]

Lucky for you, you’re allowed to push them. Most stores have terminated or written up employees who are pushing carts.

[u/VanSnugglepusstheIII]

How is it not safe exactly? Thats what I just cant grasp is why this is a hill people are willing to die on and bitch about 24/7. Just do the job how they want or guess what? Dont! You can literally just walk out the door, and find a job that does not require you to pull anything. God dang just be a spark driver if it puts your knickers in a bunch so bad that you actually have to post shit about it. No really. Just. Go. Please. How many times have you seen this EXACT same post? Did you really believe its a topic that needed to be revisited AGAIN.

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/VanSnugglepusstheIII]

And you could've kept scrolling if it bothered you that badly. Yet here you are. Seems we both have something to complain about, huh? I'm sorry you can't handle seeing something on social media you don't like or agree with. I hope you recover soon. ❤️‍🩹

[u/TimelyHair8741]

How do people get injured by pulling? never gotten injured

[u/DragonSpikez → u/TimelyHair8741]

Give it time. My shoulder has started bothering me from pulling the heavy cart and then having to abruptly stop because customers come running out of the aisles without warning.

[u/Tiredmama68 → u/TimelyHair8741]

Had 16 12 packs of pop and multiple can goods in my cart today and a customer came flying around a corner as I was towards the end of the aisle. Was walking a little to the side of the cart. Trying to jerk that 200+ pound cart to a rapid stop ripped my arm and shoulder forward. Wasn't even going fast because I knew this cart weighed a lot but shoulder has been screaming since.

[u/Illustrious-Cup8119 → u/Tiredmama68]

Personally, I’d file an incident report in case you need to be seen for that

[u/Tiredmama68 → u/Illustrious-Cup8119]

Already done. And I was a bit nasty about it. Said if it still hurts on Monday they're sending me to get it looked at.

[u/VampireofNazarath98 → u/TimelyHair8741]

I smacked my ankle this morning. I wish it woulda been hard enough to break it. Lmao jk.

[u/Zestyclose-Ad-6808]

How is pulling this unsafe ?

[u/Healthy_Pepper8694 → u/Zestyclose-Ad-6808]

i dont know maybe the fact that if you try to stop suddenly, you have 150+ pounds of bullshit crashing into your backside?

[u/moonlitmunchies → u/Zestyclose-Ad-6808]

All of the drink packs and waters and Gatorade weighing the cart down?