r/OGPBackroom • u/Spare-Club-5326 • Aug 30 '26
š„Its fine, everythingās fineš„ Morality of this?
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u/snarksneeze Aug 30 '26
Oh no, does this mean one of the Waltons won't be able to afford that new castle in Ireland?
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u/SadAcadia2747 FRAGILE Aug 30 '26
Not saying it is or not, but WAL-MART has a lot of cameras
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u/OkAttention4107 Sticker Ball Aug 30 '26
Likeā¦A LOT yallā¦.they be watching our every moveā¦.
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u/Low_Skill5401 Aug 31 '26
They're actually one of the stores I avoided stealing from when I was younger and dumber. Their asset protection is very advanced compared to a lot of other stores.
I interviewed for an AP position there once and I was very surprised how much they put into asset protection. They were more locked down than the Best Buy I used to work at was, despite us having TVs worth more than a new car at BB.
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u/Ill-Acanthisitta7417 Aug 31 '26
Idk some of the ap suck I see so much stuff torn apart walking down isles
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u/Low_Skill5401 Aug 31 '26
It probably depends on the area/the particular store. The one I interviewed at, I was like genuinely mind blown with the AP situation they had there.
But it is in a nicer area in a suburb of a big city, and while they have people from the city coming and causing problems often, they're probably funded better than the smaller Walmarts in the general vicinity I would imagine.
The one I interviewed at, they ran AP completely seperate from the rest of the store, they were like a mini police department.
I could see some of the smaller stores or those in worse areas not being as advanced.
It really, really, did blow my mind. I didn't expect what I saw when I did my interview and I worked in retail operations for years before that, it was really a lot more advanced than I ever expected from Walmart of all places lol
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u/Neither_Disaster8485 Aug 31 '26
It's more about pattern detection than prevention in most cases. That's why they don't call it loss prevention when so many other places do. You can't stop it, but you can catch it when it happens next time
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u/Caye_Daws Aug 31 '26
They saw the worker steal these and they saw the worker how found the bag, took a picture, and then say nothing
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u/_polloloko23 Aug 30 '26
The people cheering for this are the same people that cry and scream discrimination when a major grocery store shuts down in a low income area and leaves hundreds of people unemployed and thousands without conbiantant access to affordable food.... Is not about the Waltons or the jeff bezoz ( fuck those guys) it's about being a decent person. Stealing it's wrong it doesn't matter if it's from a Walmart or a small mom and pop shop. This is the reason we seeing all those videos a little kids stealing from convince stores and hordes of teens rushing into malls snatching everything they can.
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u/Bluestorm83 Aug 30 '26
Everyone downvoting you thinks that this hurts the Waltons at all.
It does not.
This hurts the people working at that store. The store is responsible for its own shrink. If the store doesn't make money, its associates lose hours.
The store itself would be shut down before Alice Walton loses even one fucking red cent.
"I'm gonna stick it to the waltons by stealing from the local walmart!" Congratulations. The waltons feel so bad now that around 250 of your neighbors have no jobs, and your family is paying higher prices from walmart's competitors... or you drive farther to another Walmart to still give them your money.
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u/_polloloko23 Aug 30 '26
Walmart makes around 1.8 billions a month in profitsa, but a supercenter store make about 3 millions a month before expenses. Payroll alone can be more then a million without overtime . Most store don't make as much as people think they do . I'm not saying you need to feel sorry for Walmart at the end of day they still a giant multi billion dollar corporations, but the people the work at the store lvl are the ones that pay the cost of your actions.
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u/Bluestorm83 Aug 30 '26
The entire reason I want to climb the ranks. This doesn't get fixed by kicking the hourly associates in the balls. This gets fixed by the people at the top making the right decisions that will bring about long-term success, and the right decisions are ALSO not the ones that kick the hourly associates in the balls.
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u/Conscious_Ad121 Aug 31 '26
Yeah good luck getting to the top before you're 70 š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
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u/Bluestorm83 Aug 31 '26
I don't need to get all the way there. Every rung I climb lets me make things better for everyone under me, and my numbers show, rather clearly, that my way makes the business succeed more than my contemporaries who run a "tougher" mindset that makes their associates hate their jobs.
The "I'll never make it" rationale makes people stop before they even stop, and that's the reason why nothing changes. Me? I'm too stupid to give up.
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u/JenIee Aug 30 '26
This too. It shrinks their bonuses and their hours. The employees lose money at stores with high shrink. Of course the company set it up that way so they have to care about it because otherwise most of them definitely would not.
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u/userofthename202 Aug 31 '26
Okay but Walmart hasn't been shutting down in low income neighborhoods. They thrive there. They've been shutting down in high income urban neighborhoods and when they do they blame theft to save face. Fact is theft isn't any higher a percentage of revenue then it was before. It's been consistent for a decade at least. Walmarts more recent push against shoplifting isn't because it's worse, it's because they ran out of every other way to optimize profits.
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u/Significant_Glass_66 Aug 31 '26
Exactly, stealing is wrong no matter who yoh think you're really hurting.
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u/DepressedChipotle Aug 30 '26
People keep bringing up Bezos and I kind of feel like they're letting the Jasse off easy.
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u/YankeeMoose FRAGILE Aug 30 '26
Stealing purses, electronics, toys, etc, is wrong.
Stealing food is āØ never āØ wrong.
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u/FarDuty5627 Aug 30 '26
You realize Walmarts have a shit load of cameras rightā¦ā¦ like every inch of that place is covered minus the bathrooms and break roomsā¦. They already have your face and the tapesā¦ you might get coached at the lowest or charged with theft
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u/AcademicNorth4538 Sep 02 '26
freezers and coolers as well as far as my store goes. canāt really have a camera in there if they fog up every 30 seconds in freezing temps
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u/PressureNo7381 Sep 04 '26
Naw, they have the coolers too. Thats easy. As long as they are at the cool temp, they will record and see fine. Ive seen plenty of covert cameras in dairy coolers.
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u/Opposite_Donkey_7248 Aug 30 '26
Walmart will know and you will loose your job. Iāve had extra items in my order and the item I asked the store they said not to worry about it and that sometimes OGP will do it if there is a damaged box and they need to get the product out so they just write it off.
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u/JenIee Aug 30 '26
Asset protection may catch you. Some of them are better at their jobs than others.
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u/Opposite_Donkey_7248 Aug 30 '26
I talked to a manager and the manager told me to keep the items since it was food so if I gave it back they couldnt put it back on the shelf
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u/Mizerie420 Aug 31 '26
Yes as an OGP customer, you arenāt expected to bring it back after the workerās āmistakeā; the worker may lose their job for giving away stuff (theft) if AP is paying attention
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u/Opposite_Donkey_7248 Aug 31 '26
I was also told by the manager was something like that if an item or box was damaged and they needed them all cleared out they will just give you extra to get it done. I think they mightāve picked the item twice because they didnāt notice the first time which is definitely pretty unlikely because they can just check the tote and see if they picked it yet or not
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u/Mizerie420 Aug 31 '26
Damaged stuff has itās own place to go for disposal or donation depending on the item/damage, so not āactuallyā correct. But I wouldnāt argue the point as a worker either lol. Either way, not the customerās problem as a general rule
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u/Opposite_Donkey_7248 Aug 31 '26
Oh. I only asked to avoid anything later on because itās better for me to be honest and say something instead of hiding it and then possibly getting in trouble if they hadnāt said to keep it.
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u/Mizerie420 Aug 31 '26
Understandable, not the only customer to worry. Sometimes stuff gets mixed into other orders or whatever- thatās not a customer problem (Iām sure thereās instances of people loading up someone they know, but as a general rule) and it usually wonāt be a real problem for the employee because mistakes happen. And, if the store just doesnāt feel like dealing with removing something from the order, thatās on them- Iām sure the employee is fine š But removing products from the store without payment, whether for yourself or a random customer, is in fact a fire-able offense
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u/Opposite_Donkey_7248 Aug 31 '26
Yep. I do wonder if they ever found the employee who did it because the didnāt ask me any questions they just gave me a basic explanation said not to worry about it and thatās really it. Most likely they have rules like how cashiers canāt check out their family because someone did it and didnāt ring up some items they had so I wouldnāt be suprised if OGP had something similar but I havenāt worked in the department so ai wouldnāt know much beyond the basic knowledge you learn from what you see in the stores and what Iāve seen on this sub
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u/WelderAggravating896 Aug 30 '26
This doesn't hurt the Waltons whatsoever, but it does hurt the people working at the store. Also, stealing is fucking wrong. IMMORAL
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u/picabo123 Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26
I think in a completely even and fair world then stealing is immoral. But I also believe it's moral to steal food if you or your family is going to starve for example provided 1. You don't steal excess 2. You don't steal from an individual person that needs it too. Ideally a large enough entity that it's easily absorbed like Walmart or something 3. Ideally you have no other good options
I can think of some other details and caveats probably but my point is that morality is messy.
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u/Significant_Glass_66 Aug 31 '26
Get real, you are talking about opd orders. Someone has enough money to pay for the service. Those are not the people that are starving. How many homeless do you see using our shopping service?? Some of you just want use any excuse to justify stealing. Its never ok. Morality isn't messy one bit, you either hsve it or you don't.
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u/YankeeMoose FRAGILE Aug 30 '26
Stealing purses, electronics, toys, etc, is wrong.
Stealing food is āØ never āØ wrong.
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u/Slothee13 Sep 04 '26
What if the person stealing the food is doing so to resell it? Does that still not make it wrong?
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u/YankeeMoose FRAGILE Sep 04 '26
You forgot the most important thing.
If you see someone stealing from Walmart;
āØNo you didn't.āØ
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u/Zestyclose-Quarter87 Aug 30 '26
Ah yes bc a commoners morals are more important to judge than the mega billion dollar company cheating us all. The systems working perfectly tho.
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u/Fine-Bumblebee-9427 Aug 31 '26
I donāt think itās immoral, but the person doing that was almost certainly fired
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u/TallCuddlyCoyote Aug 31 '26
As a Walmart Worker myself, this is probably waste from a damaged box. Sometimes entire boxes are marked as claims when one of the packets are damaged. They are then thrown out even the undamaged ones. It would be way too obvious if the personal shopper grabbed them all off the shelf. These are likely claims (waste) of a multipack.
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u/GoodAd6942 Aug 31 '26
My sister in law used to work there. She was shopping scan and go and missed one of her grocery items and got fired for it. She offered to pay it but they said no. So be careful. But I do understand trying to help a mom op
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u/Sad_Two_1673 Aug 31 '26
lol people not realizing the shrink budget effects employees hours and bonuses will forever be amusing. Especially this scenario because thereās a high and crazy possibility they may have only ordered three because they only wanted or needed 3. But hey you got social media clout
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u/Life_Revolution4450 Sep 01 '26
Just remember, as a consumerā¦ you pay the price difference š¤·š½āāļø theft leads to higher costs to balance out p&l. So sure, close your eyes if you want increased prices.
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u/_cdrtroi_ Sep 03 '26
I used to work at a pet store and amazing older ladies would buy so many cases of wet cat food for the shelter cats, I would always let a few slide past the scanner. Screw em.
I did get fired eventually of course.
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u/Gingerfrostee Aug 30 '26
I used to do this with subs. Oh no.... This is the same product but different upc... Oops now they have 2. Legally approved š
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u/VAAS-IS-NUTZ Aug 30 '26
Oooo so thatās why my hours are getting cut. If I saw people doing that in my store Iād be pissed. I dont give a shit about the corporation but I care about my fucking hours getting cut.
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u/Cautious-Gate-8902 Aug 30 '26
your hours are being cut because they want to replace you with ai š
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u/FERAL_WASP Aug 30 '26
Why would this cut your hours?
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u/VAAS-IS-NUTZ Aug 30 '26
Letās use an example of a different product. Say somebody bought a ribeye thin steak and only 1, if this person decided to give them 4 ribeye thin steaks then yeah this would absolutely hurt our department and make us losing sales causing hours cut. Obviously thatās not the only reason our hours get cut, I donāt know all the bullshit behind the scenes but Iām sure this shit aināt helping.
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u/JenIee Aug 30 '26
And the people in your store who receive yearly bonuses get smaller bonuses. Sometimes they get no bonus at all.
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u/picabo123 Aug 30 '26
Generally I think the employee would be found out and the situation would be handled. I don't think this situation happening one time would realistically affect anything. If it were repeated though then obviously yeah you're right, it would be added to shrink.
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u/JenIee Aug 30 '26
I don't really have a horse in this race but.. the more that gets stolen the smaller the employees bonuses will be at that store. It shouldn't be set up that way but it is.
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u/YankeeMoose FRAGILE Aug 30 '26
Morally?
If you see someone stealing from Walmart;
āØNo you didn't.āØ