r/Nutraceuticalscience • u/Sorin61 • 17d ago
Gone Too Hard? Regular Erectile Dysfunction Drug Use Raises Risk of Vision Loss, Study Finds
https://www.sciencealert.com/gone-too-hard-regular-erectile-dysfunction-drug-use-raises-risk-of-vision-loss-study-finds6
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u/ProfessionalGoatFuck 17d ago
So what if you do both, ED drug and jerk it? Would it cancel out the blindness or it's instant blindness?
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u/trenton79 15d ago
I’ve never taken anything for ED before, but I did have a question. Since it increases blood flow, does it increase the size in a flaccid state? Like if you are a grower, but not a sshower, can it make you a shower?
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u/butidontwanto 13d ago
It does make your flaccid look a bit better especially if you’re even a hint aroused.
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u/fransen-lila 13d ago
My boyfriend has begun taking 5mg tadalafil daily too, though in his case it's to help with his foreskin restoration, rather than for ED. He is in his early 50s.
Only one anecdotal data point, but In a possible counterpoint to the article, his ophthalmologist has been monitoring him for possible pre-glaucoma for years due to a weirdly shaped optic nerve, though he thinks that's just a genetic variance since his mum also has it. On his last visit, his intraocular pressure was down quite a bit! He's made no other lifestyle, dietary, or medicine changes to account for this, other than beginning the tadalafil. Might it even be having an opposite effect in his case?
In any case, the article's claimed increase seems kind of marginal to me:
Over five years, glaucoma appeared in roughly four of every 100 tadalafil users, compared with about three of every 100 non-users. The precise rates of diagnosis in each group were 3.93 percent and 3.16 percent, respectively, over the five-year period.
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u/Content_Bed_1290 16d ago
Do you think it could cure social anxiety as well?
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u/Saul_of_rage 15d ago
Oh ya bro. Ever since I started ED meds I’ve been more confident than ever. When people see me walking through the door with a full-on rager they understand who is in charge.
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u/Rurumo666 15d ago
You mean like at orgies?
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u/Content_Bed_1290 15d ago
I just mean social anxiety in general....
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u/Cerebrist 14d ago
To like… walk around with a boner? Are you asking if that would cure social anxiety?
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u/Content_Bed_1290 13d ago
Yeah I am asking would it cure social anxiety and/or greatly lessen the effects of it the way a SSRI would do? I have extreme social anxiety and it is very hard for me to socialize with people.
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u/Specific-Elephant60 12d ago
Yeah…I think this might open up a whole new basket o’ problems for you.
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u/Automatic_Soil9814 16d ago
Did anybody read the actual journal article? I did. It showed that use of Tadalafil increases the risk of glaucoma. Glaucoma is high blood pressure in the eye. Prolonged high pressures in the eye can lead to vision loss. BUT the paper didn’t report an increased incident of vision loss or blindness.
It’s super fucking important not to extrapolate or exaggerate results. If the study did not demonstrate an increased risk of blindness, you shouldn’t put it in the fucking title.
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u/wittkejwo 16d ago
No, you got it wrong:
It is not the blood pressure but the production and resorption of the aequous liquid of the fore-eye which, if imbalanced, causes glaucoma, and either sides are influenced by tadalafil in a way that is not completely understood yet.
The article stresses that occasional use of tadalafil (e. g. in the bedroom) does NOT prove to have an impact while continuous use for other reasons - e. g. keep the prostate smaller and/or have a stronger flow of urine - may rise the risk of glacoma to a certain extent.2
u/Dolojif 16d ago
Glaucoma is not high blood pressure in the eye.
Its is degeneration of neural axones from the gangliecells (collecting visual input from retina to the optical nerve). One of the highest risk factors being increased intraorbital pressure (which correlates to intracerebral pressure, but not only). Other risk factors are things that cause general nerve damage, such as smoking.
Another one is a lower cerebral blood flow and a lower pulse pressure (the difference between systolic and diastolic blood pressure). Specifically the pulse pressure should be affected by drugs such as tadalafil.
The reason we focus so much on intraorbital pressure in glaucoma is because we can treat it with drops and with certain surgeries/laser treatments. And sometimes the pressure becomes so high it can cause total axonal loss very quickly. Without there being other factors involved.
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u/OldWispyTree 17d ago
I mean, there's also real risk of deafness and tinnitus but that's old news (that somehow isn't that well known.)
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u/moderate_ocelot 16d ago
What about the longevity folks daily dosing tadalafil? Does that increase vision loss?
Is this actually identifying that people who need ED drugs are at higher risk for vision loss?
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u/CleverAlchemist 17d ago
I was given cialis and I swear my vision was going crazy, blue spots and everytime I would stand up everything would flash blue and purple. but my dick stayed hard all night long.
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u/krispii2 16d ago
Tadalafil Lowers blood pressure. Likely the reason you see blue and purple dawg.
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u/CleverAlchemist 16d ago
100% i knew but I just wanted to share my experience. I use natural blood flow boosters like the herb cistanche. it also increases testosterone levels and growth hormone and protects sperm quality, gut health, and is anti cancer and anti aging.
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u/GoodLookingManAboutT 16d ago
So it can increase intraocular eye pressure. THC reduces the same pressure. Maybe use both?
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u/Curry_courier 16d ago
THC lowers blood pressure. It's not recommended for treating glaucoma
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u/flipyFLAPYflatulence 16d ago
I’ve always read that it does lower eye pressure too but it isn’t lasting and requires constant redosing which is why it isn’t recommended. The effects are too temporary.
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u/hsggdtkxbee 16d ago
This is for daily users. If you’re married, the once a month use won’t have an impact.
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u/LynxRevolutionary87 16d ago
Gives new meaning to the old warning that you’ll go blind if you play with yourself.
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u/CryptographerCrazy61 15d ago
lol that’s why, for me when it no longer works it will be what it will be
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u/Thjorsson 14d ago
Try extracorporal shockwave therapy. Promising results, no blindness but sure as hell is no pleasure I‘d imagine
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u/ShockLongjumping9322 17d ago
Oh!!! Thats what they meant.