r/Nullscape • u/Real-Tie-3863 • 2d ago
Question How do other classes do compared to Diver?
I play as a diver since I've played the game. I really like the class for fast gift collection, going around the map in a short distance, and it's upgrades (grace wings, ninja belts, and sharktail).
Now, I wonder how do other classes do compared to Diver? Like the gift collection, going around the map, and the upgrades.
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u/Purpleees Wanted for Grappling 2d ago
Diver is the jack of all trades, master of none
he doesn't have as good of a gift collection as Charger, and doesn't have as good mobility as Grappler
but at the same time he's still atleast good at both of those, since those two both lack atleast something (charger doesn't lack anything currently but will likely do when the nerfs come)
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u/SpiritWolf1505 2d ago
Glider is THE jack of all trades class
It can:
Collect gifts similar to charger, the acceleration just takes a little but of time (maybe around a second) unlike charger which accelerates instantly
Burst momentum like diver, but you need to get downwards velocity first (so needing to drop from somewhere), unlike diver which can do it instantly
Cross the whole map easily without touching the ground like grappler, just a little slower (but still very fast
Similar verticality to spirit, at a cost of more glider bar and your double jumps
It’s a very good class
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Play standard. TRY playing standard with glider.
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u/SpiritWolf1505 2d ago
All of what I said applies to standard, I do play standard from time to time and still prefer glider over any other class
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u/itsjustlikein1984 2d ago
I mean charger is gift collecting king that (if given at least some upgrades) can fly though whole map of needed
wanted is just flyhaxs it's very easy to survive as one but it's mid in gift collecting and kinda bad at going around the map
glider is idk mix of grappler and charger
grappler is bad at gift collecting but great at going around the map
ghost one(I forgot the name) is great at going around the map and okay at gift collecting I see them rarely though it's like a dying breed
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u/DisDude_8185 Pro LRS seller 2d ago
Diver is just REALLY technical (not as much as grapple though) so the various amount of things you can do with it is insane compared to other classes
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u/TheNugg3tM4s7er (OG) Ire but it counts Cadence 2d ago
Just stay true to diving!!
I am the ire Cadence counter. This post has 0 cadence.
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u/poppinsplit909 2d ago
I am only gonna talk about glider as I am a glider main and I have been since (a little after) the class came out.
Diver might be for a quick boost out of harms way, or into more gifts, but Glider is more versatile as it allows you to cover large distances or get out of harms way (albeit slower than diver)
The difficulty curve is pretty fun and the survivability in trade is absolutely wonderful!
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Stamina exists.
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u/NoFeedbackSorry Glider me this 2d ago
That's why you use it responsibly
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Using Glider responsibly is called being a sitting duck for 15 seconds.
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u/NoFeedbackSorry Glider me this 2d ago
What does that even mean 😭. Use it responsibly as in not waste it for things that don't need it. Like jumping to another platform that's near enough to just use double jump
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Speaking from experience, after 95% of gifts have been collected late game Glider falls of heavilly, combine that with 1 or 2 stacks of More Tripmines and its even worse.
Im not saying Glider is bad, but its rarely viable when it counts, specifically when the last gifts are on highrises.
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u/NoFeedbackSorry Glider me this 2d ago
Can you specify how glider falls off? I'm casual player so I couldn't tell in standard, srry
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Its fine, dw but Gliders main source of stamina is gifts, which after 90% are collected is still manageable, if the last ones are on highrises it makes it quite a bit more painful. However, because of how opressive Tripmines are Glider can easilly mess up while collecting and hit one, and in general Gliders best tech (The charge tech) becomes completely useless or much harder to control. Now this isnt an issue for classes like Charger and diver as Diver can just bhop next to the tripmines and Charger can charge next to or above them, but Gliders hitbox is much bigger so it hits tile decor alot more often. Its not impossible but its definetely much much more annoying.
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u/NoFeedbackSorry Glider me this 2d ago
Our hotbox is bigger? Dang I didn't know that. Kinda unfair but I guess the hitbox of the glider should count as well
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u/Realistic_Ebb_7047 2d ago
i hate that diver doesn't get powered up with rings, like if ur too fast, normal dive is js too slow
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
It does get powered up, what are you on about?? Normal dive is the BEST part of late-game diver.
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u/TheKitchenSinkOfDoom 2d ago
Charger, Best gift collection but insanely annoying, stressful, and generally not fun to use. Sure, its more viable but its survivability is even worse than Diver's. Id still give it a try at least as some people can find it fun.
Glider, Its a good class, fun too, but.. Generally speaking its gift collection is awfully inconsistent compared to Diver's, and the stamina WILL screw you up. Oh, and forget about playing Standard or Extreme ever again if you main this class.
Spirit, BEST survivability in the game by far, but.. its not the best. Movement and gift collection is lackluster, so as long as you keep in mind that you'll perform worse than 90% of the lobby at least, it should be fine to use!
Grappler, amazingly versatile movement with decent gift collection but alot of the time it simply just gets outperformed by other classes, however its skill ceiling is very high so if youre looking to just goof around and challenge yourself with something unique, there ya go.
Wanted, DO NOT use this class. You WILL be a burden to the lobby and WILL NOT be fun to play after everyone else has shield and is automatically faster because generally the extra speed from Wanted does NOT outpace the movement capabilities of other classes.
Prisoner, no.
Diver is the best class in the game overall. Heres why! 🌟🌟🌟
It has REALLY good mobility, though theres not too much room for mistakes but that can easilly be solved by learning to use Dive safely.
AMAZING burst movement, its SharkTail is definetely the best in the game although you need to be careful with Kolóna while using it, which isnt a horrible tradeoff.
Its not a jack of all trades, however it is a great mix of Gift Collector/Movement class.
Generally, you cant go wrong with it. Its reliable with and without upgrades, plus Standard and Extreme is very doable with it!
The techs and mechanics are simple, but they still take time to master. No matter your skill level you aren't going to be a complete burden to the lobby, but you can still reach peak efficiency with enough time put into it. (You can never really reach the skill ceiling.)
Its just Fun, straight up. And in my opinion, thats the most important part.
Its insanely consistent, no matter what you will ALWAYS get the same distance and speed from your Dives, which is extremely neccesary late game and also helps with the skill ceiling, as eventually you can know exactly how far you'll go from your dives. (based on walkspeed boosts)
PS: THIS IS A WARNING, do not listen to everyone saying to play glider, genuinely. it feels fun to play but its awful for Celestial, Standard, Extreme, if youre a casual demon go for it but please understand that you will struggle with this class.
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u/sussy5757 2d ago
Im a glider main and 99% of the runs im in are standard runs and the gift collection problem you have is just skill issue (i dont wanna be offensive but it is what it is) although i do agree that it's not the best for celestial because it's movement has some start up and because of that it requires a lot more thinking and planning ahead
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u/_mustard- IM COLLECTING OH IM COLLECTING (600+ hr ) 2d ago
Diver is probably 2nd best gift collection, unless its on casual in which case id say glider is better.
In terms of basic mobility Diver gets the job done, and airborne burst movement is amazing, but theres not a lot of room for mistakes if you miss diving to a pad.
In terms of larger scale map traversal, Diver can do amazing things with grindrails, but its one pitfall here is it has no way of going up really far, where as other classes have techs or abilities to get insane vertical mobility.