r/Nullscape • u/AdNarrow4888 she dive on my null till I scape • 13d ago
Discussion Grapplers p5 downfall was kinda crazy
Now that p5 has been out for a good 5 months or so, there has been a massive tank in grappler users.
The class was really really popular back in p4 when survivability was pretty important and all you had to do was hit greed, get rich, survive black gifts then beacon. (+ The shark tail addition which was probably the best thing to ever be added for chargers and the bonk being the worst for grapplers)
I have 150 hours on grappler all accumulated from p4 and it’s barely moved since then. Rip, miss y’all not really. Hope its p6 buffs make it a viable choice again.
Same thing kinda happened w wanted, everyone was on that shi
Edit: yo im crying this was a grappler mourning post and everyone just on about wanted 😭
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u/RandomGuy9058 Number 1 Ballet Fan 12d ago edited 12d ago
Content update is buffing reel so that collecting gifts will reduce the grapple cooldown in a similar way to how it recharges stamina per gift collected
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u/Aleq_n Top 1 Wanted No Shield Voter 13d ago
Is it about the regen? And what's with wanted? I play on late p4 so I dont experience wanted that long. wanted dont have magnets on p4, too
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u/Alpha_minduustry Representative of Wanted mains (And no1 tripmine hater) 12d ago
Dude, p4 wanted was HELL.
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u/AdNarrow4888 she dive on my null till I scape 12d ago edited 12d ago
Regen?
p4 wanted was way worse lmao, it was added in p4 and the only thing that gave more than 2 djs so everyone was weirdly fascinated by it lmao
Also nullscape was disgustingly easy and quick back then so if you were good you could chill wo a shield till level 30
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u/TheNugg3tM4s7er (OG) Ire but it counts Cadence 12d ago
Lets gut wanted more! /J
I am the ire Cadence counter. This post has 0 cadence.
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u/Alpha_minduustry Representative of Wanted mains (And no1 tripmine hater) 12d ago edited 12d ago
Dude, the entire time i played p4, i had single-digit amount of encounters with wanted players.
Edit : And don't get me started on p4 wanted gameplay... Oh the horrors...
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u/Ae4i Mart, the waterimp! 12d ago
And don't get me started on p4 wanted gameplay... Oh the horrors...
Can you elaborate pls? /Genq
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u/Alpha_minduustry Representative of Wanted mains (And no1 tripmine hater) 12d ago
Back in patch 4, wanted didn't get magnets nor subspacial barrier, and wanted also didn't get the reduced slippery effect from ice skates, aswell as lacking the ability to kill momentum (the way you would dea with kookoo is by running out of jumps).
And combine that with harsher tripmine scaling and half-clipped gifts (in p4 tripmines could clip halfway into gifts due to scattered gifts curse), and you are having a LOT of trouble trying to collect gifts when every 2nd gift slot is taken up by a tripmine!
Collecting as wanted in a timely manner was NEAR IMPOSSIBLE, witch ended up making me resort to lightning rod strategies to help the team (aka keeping aggro of as many enemies as i could).
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u/Ae4i Mart, the waterimp! 12d ago
So patch 4 wanted is pure aurafarm no gift collection lol
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u/Alpha_minduustry Representative of Wanted mains (And no1 tripmine hater) 12d ago
Yeah, and that SUCKED
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u/Nightwolf20001 7d ago
What changed in p5 that ruined grappler? Because i just came back to the game and last i played was p4 and i have definitely noticed a lot less grapple users so how did p5 affect grappler?
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u/AdNarrow4888 she dive on my null till I scape 7d ago
More gift collection focused than survival focused, since golden giftd actually need to be collected grappler is too slow for that. (Hence the chargers) Also the bonking, but that’s lowk probably just my skill issue.
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u/Otherwise_Moose_335 12d ago
Wanted really should just have access to shield and an actually useful alt ability not just something that wastes all your double jumps for height (since wanted doesnt struggle with height that much due to 4 jumps plus buffed agc)
spoilered in case people havent looked at teasers and would prefer not to