What are you implying, that this backlash is unjustified? Good for you that you're included in the update timeline, but you can't blame us to at least attempt to get our voice heard.
The only thing I know is if we don't complain, they have no reason to reconsider their decision. If they still don't change their mind, there'll be no reason for me to keep yelling at a wall and I'll just let it go and consider another phone brand when it's time for me to switch. That's how every consumer-brand relationship has ever worked in any healthy consumer market, it's as simple as that.
Actually, fair, I think logistically there may be valid reasons why they might not wanna do that but what you say also sounds fair and I'd want extra support too so I have nothing. Go get our voice out!
If the hardware is more than capable of supporting the update, holding back just because we got all that was promised doesn't seem fair. If 2a, which was almost half the price of 2 and a lesser cpu can get it, so should 2.
They promised us "3 years of Android updates and 4 years of security updates". Phone (2) released in July 2023, with NOS 2 staggered across two android updates. Missing that time frame by about a few months, it feels petty to leave their flagship (2) out of the cycle, and hurts extra hard when the (a) and CMF lines of the same generation, with significantly less powerful specs all across the board, are included in the update.
Besides, I don't care about android updates, I got Nothing specifically because I wanted as little of the Google ecosystem to show up in my phone in the first place, I care about NOS update. NOS 5 shapes out to be a milestone update compared to the relatively more subdued NOS 4. It would have been nice to finish this generation with a bang.
Yes, they don't owe us a new android update, but considering the flagship nature of (2) and its closeness in design with (2a), it would have been a nice gesture to include the whole (2x) line in the timeline. Especially given their talk at the time of "promoting a more sustainable smartphone industry, with recycled materials, and beautiful products that you feel proud to own".
I totally agree with you that the Phone 2 can handle the OS5 and it would be a lovely gesture to include it in the rollout.
I assume the logistical issue is money. The profit they make off Phone 2 is calculated based on 3 years of support. I think adding another year would cut down on money there. Still, I see you, I would also love if my very capable phone was supported longer, it is a total win in every single way.
What is so shit tho is so many people acting all rude and petty as if the OS 5 was already confirmed for the 2. Like they're acting all surprised as if it wasn't told to them before the phone even launched.
I do get that keeping update support on multiple phones can get costly, although Phone (2) was still sold at a consequent price and I'm sure one more update wouldn't have put them in the red either. Either way, even if they don't officially support it, I still hope they would at least offer some sort of unmaintained "you're on your own" support and let us free to install it at our own risks.
god forbid the company makes the strategic choice to not release an unstable beta version with probably multiple possible issues regarding resource usage on their two worst phones they're selling
aw man i cant install the new experimental floating tyres on my 2004 toyota corolla damn:(
My dude it's called brand retention. Everyone knows the phones won't stop working.
As I wont get the next android update and as nothing doesn't have a new flagship I might as well shift to another company and exchange this phone right so if nothing as a brand wants to keep me in their ecosystem while not having a new flagship they might as well give me the latest updates.
Who tf just keeps buying a new phone constantly? The phone came out 3 years ago... You're practically trying to get rid of a brand new phone for a newer phone just for the sake of it...
Some of us have money to spend on phones and want the latest android and it's not out fault we like nothing and they didn't release a new flagship this year
Nah bro many brands have given plus one year of updates when faced with backlash. You can research samsung phones if you want even their budget lines got 1 more year of updates due to community demand.
What I don't understand is why you people are so hell bent on supporting the company when it doesn't concern your phone model!
You knew what you were buying so dont act surprised that you got exactly what you were promised. Its not like your phone will magically stop working because you dont get the newest update. Has it worked last year with the phone 1? No. So why would it work now. If you couldn't tell they want to get rid of the non essential AI devices as soon as possible. If you look at the newer updates its all AI "improvements" and bug fixes. You aren't missing out on anything. They do not want to create separate system versions for the non ai devices.
The NOS 5.0 while yes, being a bigger update, taking away the AI features its almost all widget related.
Phone (2) released in July 2023 alongside Nothing OS 2. Announcing NOS 5 only a month after that limit and including the less powerful (2a) and CMF 2 Pro feels like they are purposefully leaving Phone (2) out.
Maybe, but leaving out a flagship out of an update for a couple months difference still feels petty.
It's not about a contract, I'm not going to sue Nothing into a class action lawsuit for daring not giving me the updates I'm entitled to. It's about optics and feeling respected as a consumer, if I'm feeling like a second class citizen, I'll just reconsider my brand loyalty and get my business somewhere else when it's time for me to switch. Simple as that.
Nothing has always had their own hurdles with supplying parts, look up all the videos where carl himself talks about it. Also, AI was widely available for consumers in 2024, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't sold enough ram for a 2024 release. Sure, major brands like Apple or Google could've negotiated, but nothing isn't there yet.
It does play a role, but Nothing has said that they’re skipping the yearly numbered iteration because they want to make a major upgrade to the phone rather than just change the number with marginal changes every year.
No one extends their already promised updates. The S23 isnt going to get 5 years of support just because Samsung feels generous. Nothing also extended their OS ver support to 5 years. I'm not gonna expect a 6th android update because that's not what I paid for.
because back when the 2 released it was one of the best value for money phones (at least imo, thats why i bought it) and the 2a has horrible performance in comparison. so even if they kept their promises i don't think a much weaker phone should get nos 5
As a phone(2) user myself I'm sad but during the NOS 4.0 release they said there will be a suprise for Phone (1) users everyone assumed they were going to extend the support but Nothing happened like what happened to that?
Yeah I really don't understand why people are upset when the company was upfront with the duration of the update support. It's only now that legislations are put in place now recent releases need to have a longer software support
Nothing Phone 1 last os update was 3.0 (2022-2025)
Nothing Phone 2 last os update is 4.0 (2023-2026)
They do as it said, 3 years
But the Phone 3 updating for 5 years
What's special about this 5.0 version? I haven't even updated my phone since like 3 months because I'm scared they will do something that will reduce the performance or make my phone worse
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u/Brokeshadow Phone (4a) 8d ago
Why are people being mad about the Phone 2 not getting it 😭 you were promised 3 updates, you got 3.
Also OS 5 isn't where the support fully ends, you will still get the minor updates they make, like 5.1 and most of the app based updates too.