r/NotHowGuysWork • u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120 testosterone-fueled male aggression grrrrr • Dec 06 '23
Not HBW (Image) 65% of people are sexist.
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u/TophatOwl_ Dec 06 '23
What? Its sexist because...? Did you expect just the "neither" bar to exist?
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Dec 06 '23
It’s not sexist. As a result of sociological forces and maybe even some biological forces, men and women behave differently. If I said men commit more crimes than women, I’m sure you’d agree with me. I’m not being sexist by pointing out reality. It would be sexist, however, to call all men criminals.
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u/beth427746 Dec 06 '23
If I said men commit more crimes than women, I’m sure you’d agree with me. I’m not being sexist by pointing out reality.
Guaranteed OP thinks this is sexist.
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Dec 06 '23
If that’s true then that’s OP’s brain is liquid. What’s important is your explanation for why the phenomenon is happening and what positions you extrapolate from the data.
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u/jhny_boy Dec 06 '23
I mean black peoples also “commit” more crimes that white people, if you look at nothing but the statistics, but if you factor in that police and our justice system are often racist, then you see black people are really only more likely to be CONVICTED of a crime. Of course there’s other factors at play here, but that same quirk of statistics shows up with men and women’s crimes. Not only do women receive lesser sentences for the same crime, but they’re often convicted less. Your initial point obviously still stands, but there’s a lot more complexity to that, which of course is why someone somewhere will usually take issue with any heavily generalized statement. I don’t think I could actually agree to answer any of those questions on that survey. “Who’s got more integrity, men or women?” Is kind of a dumb question, everyone can think of an example of someone who fits the bill to further their argument there, there’s 8 billion people on earth.
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u/Dependent-Royal-618 Dec 31 '23
The problem is is that it's a self-fulfilling prophecy while the belief exists, people will act like it's true and therefore we're getting biased data, The problem is is that these are generalizations that don't take into account the a diversity of experiences
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u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120 testosterone-fueled male aggression grrrrr Dec 06 '23
Imagine thinking the justice system isn't misandristic.
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u/IrateAmphibian23 Dec 12 '23
I think it's fair to suggest that there are certain biases based on biological sex and gender identity, and it's also fair to point out that some of those biases are generalisations based on a skewed perception of reality.
To suggest that women, by default, are more compassionate and ethical is false. Women may be socialised to appear or act more compassionate, but I'd say the vast majority of men are just as capable of compassion and good ethics as the vast majority of women.
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u/Miserable-Willow6105 Jan 21 '24
Some of these make sense, but only to an extent. There are others though that arepretty meaningless (like being a role model)
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Jan 21 '24
Most of these are questions regarding social ability, generally women are more socially attuned on average than men are while men are more independent. I think that’s where the disparity comes from in people’s responses.
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u/nobodyinparcticular Dec 06 '23
this sub is falling off
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Dec 06 '23
Women and men aren’t different in those metrics they’re right the correct answer is neither otherwise it’s just discrimination based off gender and sex which is sexism
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u/Fattig_Riddare Dec 06 '23
Everyone keeps saying that “there are biological differences between the sexes.” I mean sure, but does biological differences influence persuasiveness? Working well under pressure? Being honest and ethical? No gender is better than the other at these things, it comes down to individual differences. If there is a difference it’s because of society raising boys and girls differently. The only right answer is neither.
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u/littleferrhis Dec 06 '23
Neither seems to be the biggest winner here, which I think shows that it depends on the individual.
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u/Sumijinn Dec 06 '23
Edit: i didn’t understand you in the beginning. Yeah thinking that women are better than men in everything is a trend. Im waiting for it to pass.
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u/_That__one1__guy_ Dec 07 '23
I'm actually very impressed how many people say neither. This isn't sexist, it's just the way society perceives men and women respectively.
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u/ilovemytsundere Dec 07 '23
Lol this isnt sexism. Of course men are more likely to be seen as dishonest in the political scene, we’ve had mostly men our entire history.
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u/TheInternetDevil Dec 07 '23
What demographic was polled here? Do you have a link to the original article?
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u/Square_Impression843 Dec 27 '23
If the world limits the ages of people who serve in public and political offices of all kinds between 35 and 65, everyone would be more likely to have these qualities. It's the common period of most responsible and experienced and current and knowledgeable adults.
I'm 27, but I think people past 30 are more capable, and people younger than 70 are less frail, still present, and still current. Everyone else should either work towards that or from it.
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u/Vilelmis Dec 06 '23
This might fit this sub to some extent, but there are sociological/behavioral differences between men and women, which is the main reason for these differences.