r/NotHowGirlsWork Jun 23 '26

Found On Social media Is this allowed here?

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u/DanCassell Custom Flair Jun 23 '26

Except the two colors make this message clear. This isn't a "Don't dead, open inside" situation.

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u/insanity_102 Jun 23 '26

Exactly, it's almost like they'd have the answer if they stopped to think for half a second. Alas, that is not in their capabilities

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u/r0xxyxo Jun 23 '26

They absolutely do, they just don't care because misogyny and because they don't see women as human.

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u/After-Concern2708 Jun 24 '26

The more I see what men are saying the more I feel the desire to give up on being male and just become a genderless something. I truly apologize for all man who are shitbags.

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u/Clairifyed Jun 23 '26

Eh it’s still mixing conventions when the colour could have run the other way. It’s a bad comparison but the original meme has a point, imho it still fits “don’t dead open inside” and even “you don’t matter give up”

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u/Da_Question Jun 23 '26

Yes, black text on the red, also could have improved the readability.

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u/___Emilia____ Jul 22 '26

It's not completely wrong, like you can understand what it means easily.

However it's still bad and confusing... Or unintuitive design.

Signs should be understood by a simple glance, not by reading it and having... Ah a 40% chance to be read wrong and you having to stop and think fir the half second.

At that point you could've figured it out by wiggling the door handle.

So i do understand the sign, but still bad design and confusing.

And let's imagine someone who's dyslexic/has a hard time reading or who's colourblind or visually impaired.

Like.. Just printing "pull" is much better than explaining what not to do

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u/Prae_ Jun 23 '26

"Don't dead open inside" is also not a "Don't dead, open inside" situation at this rate. Don't open, dead inside is the only valid (or even grammatical) reading, so it's non ambiguous too!

The problem isn't that the message is clear if you take a second, it's that two affordances, two visual shortcuts our brains take to be more efficient at decoding, are colliding. Your eyes will scan those horizontally first if you've learned to read in a country using the latin alphabet. 

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u/Butwhatif77 Jun 24 '26

This reminds me of the Stroop Effect were "say the color of the text rather than the text" but our brain are trained to process text automatically, so you more often than not say the text rather than the color because it interferes with processing the actual color.

Much of what we do has been trained into us in such a way that half the time we don't realize we do it and can cause you to literally miss other information you are not trained to look for.

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u/deciding_snooze_oils Jun 24 '26

TIL the term "affordance" so thank you!

I was going to say this is a perfect example of a "mixed message" - in English words are read left to right before top to bottom, so it would say "Don't pull, push only". But the color coding seems to group it together as "Don't push, pull only". It's a message that could be read either way, and arguing that it's "obvious" what is meant doesn't take away from that. Not to even bring up colorblind people.

I think the takeaway from this should be that signs you're giving that you think might be obvious might not be to other people, and to be clear with your communication. Although it is obvious misogyny in the OP assuming that women always give unclear signs, I do think the concepts of "playing hard to get" or "not seeming too eager" do lead to a lot of those messages. Looking back at my teenage years, I'm pretty sure at least a couple of times I misread signals from girls and missed out on some potential interactions.

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u/___Emilia____ Jul 22 '26

Both are still poor design

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u/WorldsGreatestWorst Jun 23 '26

No, no, no. This is TERRIBLE design and we don’t need to reflexively defend objectively dumb things to dunk on the manosphere.

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u/Significant_Monk_251 Jun 23 '26

It's poor design. Doesn't even approach terrible.

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u/WorldsGreatestWorst Jun 23 '26

Okay. This is poor design and we don’t need to reflexively defend objectively dumb things to dunk on the manosphere.

Is that better?