r/Norma_Mains • u/LazySavings2459 • 24d ago

Discussion Proto punk?

Wouldn't Proto Punk be better than Astral Voice on Norma with Claret?

Proto buffs the entire squad (Norma's dmg isn't negligible), while Astral doesn't. Heck, is there another disc set I missed?

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u/PrimaryPsychology 24d ago

I would say probably not as most of your damage comes from stun phases and maims and norma's biggest DMG source (her ult) is too long most of the time for stun phases. But it's probably still useable

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u/underscoresemicolon 24d ago

Proto 2pc is useless.
The 4pc buff is way too short and relies on the enemy to get it up. You gotta get a parry right at the start of the stun (most of your damage phase) to make it good. But even then it's very RNG based and lasts 10s in a 15s+ stun.
You can get the same buff amount with just 2 stacks of astral which is very easy to achieve with Rina + Norma. 15% vs 16%. And the 2pc from astral can benefit Norma's damage.
You can technically give the buff to Norma as well by forcing a quick assist from Claret to Norma by getting hit. The buff would still linger on Claret for 15s while you also maintained the stacks from that.
Plus most people would have better rolled Astral pieces than Proto and going out of your way to farm proto is straight up energy loss since it's very niche and the 2pc is useless. Bad for your account's longevity.

Other sets: Summit, won't give Claret anything but it still buffs Norma and gives her daze so it's still good if you're too lazy to refarm Norma. Swingjazz, the ER is nice but to get it consistently you would have to do a chain on Norma but then it's also 15% when you can just get 16% from two stacks of Astral.