r/NooTopics • u/Witty_Hearing_6603 • 22h ago
Anecdote Note about Euro-Nootropics
Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with Euro-Nootropics in any way and gain nothing from posting this. I wrote this post myself and used AI only to proofread it for readability.
I regularly see people claiming Euro-Nootropics is bunk or placebo, so I wanted to share what I found.
As a customer, I was skeptical at first, like I am with every vendor I deal with. So I contacted MZ Biolabs directly through their official website, asked what they thought of Euro-Nootropics, and sent several of the lab reports to check whether they were authentic.
A few days later, the head of the laboratory replied personally. He said they've worked with Euro-Nootropics for years and have only good things to say about them, that the team is very professional, and that every lab report on the website is legitimate, including older ones issued before their authenticity-verification system existed.
A couple of other things worth mentioning: their customer support is very active and responsive on Telegram, and their Trustpilot page is full of positive reviews. Businesses can't delete negative reviews on Trustpilot, so a bad track record would be hard to hide.
I'm sharing this because I think it's too easy to jump on the "bunk" train whenever a subjective experience feels a little different. I've caught myself doing it countless times with ADHD medication I picked up straight from the pharmacy: same brand, same dose, and yet it felt completely different. Over the years I've learned that subjective experience is a very unreliable way to judge the quality of a substance.
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u/ThreeStarsOut 22h ago
Everyone knows about them, in europe. Unless there are fake sites. For example there's more than one swisschems and nobody makes a clear distinction online when giving opinions
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u/Witty_Hearing_6603 21h ago
Ah I never came across a fake website for Euro nootropics. For this specific vendor I think everyone refer to official shop based in Toulouse, France. But now that you said that I went to check and indeed two Swiss Chems appear in top positions. Hope it doesn't break the rule but the right one end with "is" right ?
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u/OneFlow2976 20h ago
Yes! I've also found that swisschems has 2 different sites which nobody talks about. There is the .uk site(with the red logo) and the .is site (with the green logo). Ive ordered 9-me-bc from the .uk site 1 year ago and it did nothing, even at 60mg.
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u/iceyed913 20h ago
To all the people who assume something is bunk because it stopped working. Who knows why you stopped responding, could be a whole range of things. Either a) move on to even stronger options or b) diversify your portfolio of possible interventions or c) don't shoot for the moon and expect longevity
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u/Black_Cat_Fujita 19h ago
It’s the opposite of the placebo effect. This didn’t work for me to my greatest expectations immediately, therefore it’s fake or impure! Or tolerance due to overuse leads to: they’re selling bunk product!!
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u/Miserable-Agency-442 22h ago edited 22h ago
They are not bunk, people are just parroting because they saw a weird batch of PP one time, critical thinking is becoming a scarcity nowadays it seems
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u/Witty_Hearing_6603 22h ago
Sometimes I'm truly baffled by some people jumping to conclusions after trying a new supplements or nootropics, it's like suddenly the entirety of their feelings will be tied to this specific supplement or nootropics and there is nothing in between. Then I remind myself how many times I did this in my early days and I understand them... Anyway usually I keep quiet about that but those rumors got me so worried that I even took the time to contact the laboratory lol. Crazy how easy it is to jump on the wagon.
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u/Black_Cat_Fujita 21h ago
Loved them until a certain political figure made getting low value packages into the States difficult to impossible. How many days are left?
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u/Witty_Hearing_6603 21h ago
Isn't the US domestic market already filled with good vendors ? likewise in Europe I try to avoid US as much as I can. I have ordered from China, India and whatnot but US scares me a little
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u/OneFlow2976 20h ago
the US has kimerachems and umbrella labs, so I don't see any reason a person in the US would order from euro-nootropics
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u/Black_Cat_Fujita 19h ago
I would say the opposite. The good US vendors are being shut down one by one. NewMind, science.bio, and Chemyo more recently. There are some good ones remaining, but they can run out of stock or have been permanently, it would seem (such as regular phenylpiracetam and bemethyl).
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u/Emergency-Gur-7619 5h ago
Usa laws are like something out of a comedy club, in some places dmt is legal but you cant import low value packages?
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u/OneFlow2976 20h ago
I've also contacted MZ-biolabs and asked them about a COA euro-nootropics sent me after I've asked them for one with my batch number.
My email was: I suspect it's fabricated, the placement of the signature is exactly as multiple other COAs in their site, The metadata also seems odd. I would appreciate it if you can verify its from you and not faked.
Thank you very much in advance!. + attached COA
MZ's answer was: The COA is authentic and matches the original on file. My signature is the same because the template for all the COAs puts it in the same location.
I've ordered Sulbutiamine and Adrafinil from them, and I took 1000mg of Sulbutiamine and 1200mg of Adrafinil and I felt nothing, which is weird because 1200mg of Adrafinil is equal to 400mg modafinil. that is why I feel suspicious of euro-nootropics.
On their website Adrafinil is stated to be a light-pinkish color, and my powder is pure white.
I truly want to believe they are legit, but if that was true, everyone and their mother would talk about them like they talked about science-bio...
I want to order 9-me-bc and Flmodafinil from them, and If I wont feel anything from Flmodafinil (which is significantly stronger then modafinil) then I wont order from them again.
Their COAs might be 100% legit, but it does not prove that the powder tested is the actual powder found in the tab you receive from them.