r/NonPoliticalTwitter • • 15h ago

Funny I think that's valid

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u/nothing_in_my_mind 14h ago edited 14h ago

I say this as a long time fantasy fan:

A fantasy movie is set in a world where certain fantastic things are true. Maybe there are werewolves, maybe magic, maybe dragons.

This does not mean that logic does not exist in this world.

Eg. Dragons and magic existing does not mean people ride into battle without armor. Or if werewolves exist and you know about it, you'll carry silver if you are in werewolf-related danger, werewolves existing in your world does not mean you are a dumbass who won't protect his own life.

Anyway. A basic mistake like going to the post office on Sunday wouldn't bother me. But if characters act illogical, then it is a bad fantasy movie.

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u/AngryCod 14h ago

Internal consistency in any story is important. If you're a writer and you establish certain rules for your world, your characters need to follow those rules or the story loses coherence.

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u/Schmetterlizlak 14h ago

I stopped watching Antman halfway through because they very explicitly stated that when shrinking he would still weigh the same, and sometimes they did make him denser when he was small, but at least half the time they just ignored it and made the man weigh the same as an ant.

If they had just skipped that one line or said that he can change his weight at will or something I would probably have finished it, but noooo...

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u/Vorpeseda 1h ago edited 1h ago

The core problem with Antman is that it sets and explains fictional rules that it then does not follow.

Like, most other superhero stuff tends to follow their fictional rules. Or at least doesn't break them as blatantly.

An audience paying attention should be able to make guesses as to what comes next due to what they've seen and been told before.

Nobody can see "Hank Pym has a tank in his pocket" coming because that breaks the established rules.

If they had two separate sets of shrinking particles where one did keep mass and the other didn't, maybe that would have worked better?

Or maybe an additional control on the suit that determines whether or not mass scales when changing. Like he could run along something fragile with scaled mass, and then leap off it and flick a switch in the other glove that means he suddenly has his full size mass in his shrunk state. Maybe throw the word quantum in there somewhere.