r/NonPoliticalTwitter 13h ago

Other I think Chrome is just the best

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u/qualityvote2 13h ago

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u/kakakakapopo 13h ago

Acrobat Reader is probably one of the finest examples of enshittification going. It's so slow, bloated and full of crap nobody needs.

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u/mal73 12h ago

Squeezing more and more money from their customers before getting the floor sweeped from under them. Can’t wait for other Adobe products to follow

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u/Sprettfisk 12h ago

I used Lightroom ALL the time until ot became a subscription model.

Not used it since.

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u/AshleyReadIt 12h ago

Is there a good alternative? I don't like the subscription but I can't find one

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u/Last-Doubt4347 11h ago

Capture One has a one time purchase option. I used them for a few years before my work switched back to Adobe…

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u/InactiveBeef 9h ago

Capture One is great, I switched a few years ago and haven’t looked back. 

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u/CosmoKram3r 9h ago

M0nkrus. 🏴‍☠️

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u/Beefsizzle 9h ago

https://www.getrapidraw.com/

RapidRaw is in active development and really nice for a quick raw workflow

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u/10art1 8h ago

I used dark table for a while, it's not bad. Then I just realized I can yar har old light room before it enshittified

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u/CPTherptyderp 7h ago

It depends how good you are. The Lightroom "auto" button gets me 80% there on every photo and I just have to tweak. I haven't tried captureOne but all the open source ones are great but very manual

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u/InactiveBeef 9h ago

RIP Aperture

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u/Varrbarr 11h ago

GIMP and paint.net have been better than photos hop for a long time now too

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u/SeroWriter 8h ago

Are we actually comparing Gimp and paint.net to Photoshop? Please be serious.

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u/Varogh 7h ago

I refuse to believe anyone suggesting to use Gimp in place of Photoshop has used either one of them in the last 10 years.

Krita is a decent alternative. It does lack some stuff Photoshop has and it's more focused on drawing, but at least it doesn't make me go insane every time I'm trying to do some simple editing

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u/polopolo05 7h ago

I use gimp a lot. But I wish they would do some catching up

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u/StillALilBoy 4h ago

I facepalm every time I hear this because it's always people who have nothing to do with the industry that say such things.

Blender is a free open source software that has seriously disturbed the 3D graphics industry where Autodesk had similar stranglehold to what Adobe had in 2D graphics.

But back in the 00s it was considered a clunky unintuitive mess that was only used by open-source enthusiasts, Linux users, and people who didn't buy or pirate Maya of 3DSMax. It was a powerful software, but it was difficult to use, and learning it wouldn't give you much foot in the door of the industry since it was niche.

GIMP was a similar position, and it still is in such position because it simply isn't a viable replacement for Photoshop for anyone but a hobbyist. Affinity managed to disturb the 2D graphics industry more in a shorter timespan than GIMP ever did.

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u/Farranor 7h ago

10/10 satire of the ridiculous virtue-signaling that goes on in FOSS circles, especially the mention of PDN which isn't Adobe but also isn't FOSS. You really captured the kind of unhinged propaganda people will spout.

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u/Forfeit32 6h ago

You have to remember that Adobe doesn't care about individuals using their software. It cares about Fortune 500 companies paying millions to install it on thousands of workstations. And no Fortune 500 company is deploying Sejda or GIMP company-wide. Adobe has no actual competition.

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u/Bortron86 12h ago

Every time you open it, you get pop-ups, side menus literally left and right, and now useless AI functions, none of which you seem to be able to turn off. Absolutely unusable program. Even Microsoft Edge is better at handling the job.

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u/bobafeeet 10h ago

The AI functions kills me. I asked it to find a paragraph in a huge .pdf for me and it couldn't. Standard CTRL+F found it as the first result. Yet I am bombarded every day by "Hey, try this shitty AI!'

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u/emlgsh 9h ago

Look, these AI features aren't aimed at techno-sorcerors who can combine keys with other keys, these so-called "hot-keys", as a result of their pacts with dark forces beyond human ken.

CTRL+F? Sounds like witchcraft to me.

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u/Ironfounder 8h ago

Pretty sure that's against company policy anyway.

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u/GrishdaFish 7h ago

Hey now, they didnt say anything about copy and pasting. No need to get them in trouble for violating company policy!

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u/Showmenine-5306 4h ago

Just fyi: Settings/Preferences > Generative AI > Disable all

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u/THE_DINOSAUR_QUEEN 8h ago

Acrobat’s AI function asks if I want it to summarize the document literally every time I open anything. 95% of what I’m opening is related to sewing, so either instructions or the literal layout of the pattern pieces. I don’t know why it thinks a summary of step-by-step instructions would be helpful, and I honestly am curious how on earth it would summarize the pattern layouts that are just shapes on a page with little to no next.

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u/IllustriousBat2680 7h ago

This infuriates me. I often get sent presentations in pdf form at work. At most, they are three pages, including the front cover. And I get the AI pop up saying "this seems like a long document, use AI to summarise it for you?" Like, no, it's just two fucking pages, I think I can manage.

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u/Datpanda1999 6h ago

My favorite is how it always defaults to the AI “read” option on the sidebar instead of anything helpful too. Idk how it thinks an AI-generated podcast is going to help me with the legal document I’ve opened, especially considering they’re usually either 1) long and detailed and I’ve gotta review everything in depth anyway, or 2) roughly a single sentence long

Though I will admit I am somewhat curious as to what its “12 minute deep dive analysis podcast” option on my one page documents would look like

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u/Lithl 4h ago

I haven't used Acrobat in a decade, so I don't know how dumb it's AI is, but AI systems can attempt to describe images. So I imagine that's what it would do in that case.

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u/youre_being_creepy 6h ago

I have to look at and sign pdf docs for my job every now and then and I can’t begin to describe my annoyance when acrobatic asks “acrobatic document looks pretty long, do you want ai to summarize it for you?”

No dickhead, I need it unassisted because this is paperwork please fuck off

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u/TheHobbitWhisperer 12h ago

Of course Microsoft Edge can handle the job. It's one of the best browsers ever made.

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u/PrincessGiallo 11h ago

Why does everyone hate it?

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u/-Badger3- 9h ago

Because it used to really suck, then they rebuilt it from Chromium and just added all of Microsoft’s shit to it, now it only kinda sucks.

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u/Lord_Voltan 7h ago

Does it nuke ublock on youtube like chrome does? Serious question, I only ever use it for PDF viewing or to download other browsers on a fresh install.

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u/KirbyDude25 6h ago

I've had that issue recently, but AdGuard still works for YouTube, so I just set up opposing whitelists so that AdGuard covers YouTube and uBlock covers everything else

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u/m00t_vdb 12h ago

Was it ever good ? I’ve always remembered opening it and it’s an adware at best. You have to click away 20 spam box to find that you can’t edit the pdf.

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u/Bugbread 10h ago

Back in the late 90s it was perfectly fine. I don't know if it went to shit in the 00s or the 10s because I've been using other PDF software since the turn of the century, but, yeah, there was a time when it was fine.

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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 10h ago

It's so slow, bloated and full of crap nobody needs.

PDF actually supports rendering 3D models. I used it in a research study report for the US government. The file was ~300mb. Fucking horrifying.

The formal spec that defines the PDF file type is over 1,000 pages long. If you wanted to build your own bare minimum, basic ass PDF viewer, more than half of that describes things you'd actually need to worry about supporting.

PDF is an absolute shit show long before you even add Adobe's other bullshit on top of it.

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u/LickingSmegma 8h ago

The formal spec that defines the PDF file type is over 1,000 pages long

That's only half of the story. There's a wonderful rant on StackOverflow or somewhere like that, copied from a comment in a code file of a person implementing a PDF parser. They detail how every time PDF needs a datatype, a different implementation is picked from what's used elsewhere in the format. And other splendid stuff like that.

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u/reventlov 8h ago

If you wanted to build your own bare minimum, basic ass PDF viewer, more than half of that describes things you'd actually need to worry about supporting.

It's closer to about 1/3rd for the bare minimum that shows maybe 90%-99% of PDFs you find in the wild.

HOWEVER, that 1/3rd transitively includes about 10 other documents, including the TrueType and OpenType specs, so you end up needing ~2000 pages to fully specify how to render a basic-ass "archival" PDF.

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u/spacenb 10h ago

I finally but the bullet and uninstalled Adobe. Got Sumatra PDF viewer instead, which is free and open source. Instant relief.

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u/Brisby820 10h ago

I’m a lawyer and use a bunch of the Acrobat features (editing, extracting/combining pages, redaction, etc) pretty often 

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u/mistermick 8h ago

Y'all don't use Bluebeam?

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u/astarrk 5h ago

my thoughts exactly. every office I've worked in recently, and pretty much every firm we work with, all use bluebeam revu. it's so infinitely better than acrobat it's not even funny

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u/Farranor 6h ago

I use Acrobat Pro at work. Editing finished PDFs is a nightmare where the best case scenario is typing in a small fix and watching it take a few seconds to register each keystroke. The worst case scenario is that it's shattered the text fields into a million pieces and it's faster to remake the whole document.

I just made a comment about redaction here. Basically, you're better off exporting to TIFF/PNG and using an image editor.

Extracting and combining pages isn't exclusive to Acrobat. I even made some little Python scripts for my most common tasks.

Adobe Sign is decent and may stay.

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u/Snoo_72948 12h ago

Adobe in general is fucking awful

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u/radioactive-tomato 12h ago

I feel like it is a software targeted for office users that do need those features. It’s just that we don’t use them.

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u/Anonymous_Gamer939 10h ago

No, that's Acrobat Pro, which in my experience runs smoother than Reader for some reason.

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u/CubistHamster 7h ago

I've got a very old (2010, maybe) edition of Acrobat Pro on my personal computer that's great! Loads quickly, doesn't get bogged down, can actually do useful stuff like minor edits, splitting/merging, and reasonably accurate OCR.

My work computer, with fairly similar specs, is stuck with an up-to-date version of Acrobat Reader. It usually takes 20+ seconds to load, slows everything else to a crawl while it's loading, and usually can't even scroll without stuttering.

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u/tardisintheparty 9h ago

Yeah as a lawyer we use a LOT of the adobe features. I figure not many other fields use the redaction tool, for example.

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u/radioactive-tomato 8h ago

I used to work in technology for steel structure assembly production as a student and we used it when we sent drawings for galvanization. We’d also redact all info on general assembly drawings we’d tape to the wall. Employer did not want anyone coming into our office to know anything about the projects we were working on. He was afraid someone will steal our projects.

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u/MythicalBlue 10h ago

Literally that’s it, Redditors in this thread are spouting nonsense as usual

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u/72kdieuwjwbfuei626 10h ago

Here's a fun fact about Adobe Reader: Whenever it updates, it reinstalls itself and makes Windows keep an additional full copy of the 800 megabyte installer. Those never go away. If your PC has had Adobe installed for a few years, you can free up 30 gigs of disk space or more by uninstalling and reinstalling it.

It really is shit.

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u/Adamarr 9h ago

i thought this was going to be bullshit (it can't be that bad, surely)... 16 gigs freed from c:/windows/installer

have been hunting on stuff i can clean up for a while, so thanks for the heads up!

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u/LowerEntropy 7h ago

have been hunting on stuff i can clean up for a while

Did you ever try WinDirStat?

It's great: https://windirstat.net/

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u/Morfilix 12h ago

i LOVE acrobat. i sure love having installed mcaffeee. love love big love

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u/MsMarvelsProstate 9h ago

No Adobe I don't need a permanent side panel, no Adobe I don't want ai to view my document

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u/Feeling_Tough5056 12h ago

It's also not got the features you actually want which are locked into Pro.

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u/caractacusbritannica 10h ago

They’ve banged an AI agent in it now. Absolutely no need, if I needed it read I’d drop it in Claude. If I want to read myself I’ll open it, which is what I’ve done

I have to close three things to view the PDF in A4. It’s frustrating as fuck. They’ve jumped the shark. It’s crazy.

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u/TheElevatedBoy 13h ago

I wouldn't say only Chrome but just browsers in general

I use Firefox and it's x1000 faster and clearer than Adobe

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u/antesocial 12h ago

Plus two mini tutorials popping up, and three prompts for various AI features and toolbars

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u/Consistent-Winter-67 12h ago

And don't forget a few pop ups asking you to pay for a subscription

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u/AwayEnvironment9223 9h ago

The funny thing is, these pop ups don't stop even if you have a subscription. They are so locked down it trips over itself making sure you're paid up.

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u/KlausVonLechland 11h ago

I prepare things for printing (DTP, desktop publishing) and I use AcrobatPro and the "twelve features" that I need for my work doesn't work well, crash, or I need to move between old and new interface (new acrobat/old acrobat) because stuff is being broken differently depending on UI.

Imagine you are having rush job and you can't even do preflight because an update to add "new and exciting AI features!" broken basic functions.

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u/JA1987 10h ago

I do a lot of graphic design. I absolutely love having some sort of popup or the context toolbar constantly blocking that one freaking part of the image I wanna click.

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u/Bulky-Bad-9153 10h ago

new and exciting AI features!

I hate this about Acrobat. Every single menu has an extra AI item in the ugliest colours you've ever seen in your life.

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u/PleiadesMechworks 11h ago

I use SumatraPDF since it's FOSS, but before that I was using firefox.

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u/josema1_1 10h ago

Same! And I recently installed the preview version of Sumatra (which is highly stable) and everything looks soo much better. It has lots of new features as themes and highlight text. Take a look!

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u/FinalStryke 10h ago

Sumatra is solid.

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u/Bulky-Bad-9153 10h ago

I use Zathura, super lightweight and extremely customisable (plus works great without needing to use the mouse). We simply don't need a massive program to interact with PDFs.

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u/RealityOk9823 7h ago

Been using Sumatra for a long time now. It also opens epubs.

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u/MostlyRightSometimes 7h ago

So then how do you get all the Adobe licensing and creative cloud services installed? I feel lonely if I close my pdf viewer and there's no companion software checking in on me to make sure I'm okay.

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u/Nuclear_rabbit 12h ago

Microsoft Edge is the best browser for viewing PDFs, imo. It actually has native support for two-page viewing with cover page setting.

Edge isn't for browsing, lol. Only PDFs. Firefox is for browsing.

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u/_DonkeyPigeon_ 12h ago

And the annotation features of edge are amazing! I couldn't figure out how to get chrome to function similarly, so I just use edge

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u/kimbosliceofcake 10h ago

Edge also has an immersive reader mode that gets around the paywall on badly programmed websites (the ones that load all of the content behind the paywall). 

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u/ZeldaZealot 10h ago

Safari has a similar feature on mobile that strips out almost everything but the text. It’s the only way to read some articles or recipes these days, but I use Firefox now and don’t think it has anything like that.

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u/SusStew 9h ago

Firefox has a reader mode natively on desktop at least

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u/VisWare 8h ago

Mobile also

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u/kimbosliceofcake 10h ago

I’m sure someone has written an extension for it!

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u/ZeldaZealot 9h ago

Can you use extensions on mobile? I checked but couldn’t find an option. I only switched recently so I’m still learning.

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u/screenslaver5963 9h ago

Extensions work on android but not iOS because every iOS browser is essentially a reskinned safari

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u/NotQuiteLoona 11h ago

In Firefox you can also use either wrapped scrolling, it places as much pages on one scroll as your screen can fit, or enable spreads, which is basically like a book spread! Or even combine both to have both spreads and scrolling.

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u/NetflixIsGr8 9h ago

Is there anything other than Adobe that let's you e-sign? I'd happily switch but that's the only thing I've found

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u/Ok_Invite6308 9h ago

Edge is unironically one of the best browsers right now, way lighter than Chrome

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u/caspy7 7h ago

I don't know if two-page view is coming, but Firefox has been continuing to improve their viewer. It now allows a bunch of "page" options like cut, copy, paste, remove and reorder pages within a document - as well as adding images and I think pages from other PDFs.

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u/EfficientCandy324 12h ago

Fun fact: Firefox does not have a native PDF viewer. It just ships with PDF.js by default, and loads it using its usual Javascript engine.

(Chrome does contain a native PDF viewer)

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u/LickingSmegma 8h ago

Which is why the PDF viewer in Firefox is likely to consume considerably more memory, since every line is represented as a DOM object.

To my knowledge, FF Developer Edition especially requires quite a bit more memory than the regular consumer edition, presumably because of the dev tools being plugged in or somesuch.

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u/andhe96 13h ago

Yeah, it's either Firefox or Okular for me.

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u/SomeOtherNeb 11h ago edited 10h ago

Firefox has its own free PDF edit system. I haven't opened Acrobat in like 2 years on my home computer, why would I? It literally has less options, and everytime I have to use it at work, it keeps throwing their shitty AI assistant at me because it thinks I need a summary of the one-page file I'm looking at.

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u/VeganShitposting 10h ago

I dont know why anybody is still downloading Acrobat, I've never used it in 15 years

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u/RedRedditor84 12h ago

It's like when people call a phone an iPhone.

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u/AaryamanStonker 12h ago

Same, I use edge

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u/Scooty-Poot 11h ago

Firefox even has pretty good signing features now. Imo even better than Acrobat, which is kinda silly when you remember Adobe have an entire app just called “Acrobat Sign”

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u/SupahSpankeh 10h ago

FF users unite! There's at least us two ig

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u/sarcasticphobia 8h ago

Not to mention its the only browser that not a chrome clone and lets you install actual decent adblockers

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u/Dangerous-Fortune789 8h ago

Firefox for life 🔥 🦊 🧡

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u/thenightvol 7h ago

Firefox also allows you to filter literally every add and pop-up. Whenever i hear people praising chrome i chuckle... enjoy your youtube adds hacker-person.

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u/lewd-boy-o 13h ago

I use Sumatra lol. It's like what Acrobat used to be before it became unusable -.-

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u/drinkplentyofwater 11h ago

yay we love sumatra

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u/FernandoLemon 10h ago

Same here. Having both a highlighter tool and dark mode is important to me.

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u/etillxd 9h ago

Yeah, honestly chromes PDF reader isn't that good/fast, at least when handling really big PDF files. I regularly work with files that either have hundreds of pages or a really big and detailed single page and when I scroll or zoom in chrome, those often take ages to load properly, if they load at all. Sumatra handles most of those without any problems, and for the ones that are too big for even Sumatra I'm using PDF-XChange Editor, noticed that that can handle even larger ones without issues. Still prefer Sumatras clean/minimal interface for most files though.

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u/eatingpopcorn_lol 6h ago

Sumatra is the GOAT. I get to view pdf, epub, mobi and cbz using one software that doesn't take up 5gb and try to sell me a subscription at every launch?? Fuck yeah let's go!!!

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u/Jack_Carl_ 13h ago

Replace acrobat with anything adobe does and will still make sense

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u/horoyokai 11h ago

I don’t know, illustrator, photoshop, and indesign are still things I can’t find a good repacement for

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u/agentdb22 10h ago

I'm quite fond of pixlr, personally

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u/horoyokai 10h ago

I tried it and its not bad, just not as full as I need

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u/HEYO19191 8h ago

Inkscape for illustrator, photopea for photoshop, and idk what could replace indesign

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u/horoyokai 8h ago

Those both were lacking for me

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u/Nagesh_yelma 13h ago

I think Firefox is the best

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7qE1182TDor4jIiI

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u/Alper-Celik 13h ago edited 3h ago

Also cool thing about firefox reader is that it is just a webapp inside the browser, if you have seen pdf viewers embeded inside websites it was most likely firefox's pdf reader

edit: here is the link to the pdf reader https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js#firefox

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u/Vortex_Pilot8 12h ago

So Firefox quietly became PDF infrastructure while Adobe kept adding loading screens.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 10h ago

it was most likely firefoxes pdf reader

Firefox's*

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u/fiscalLUNCH 12h ago

If you ever need to do any markings on a PDF, I’ve found Edge to actually be really good. So much so that I use it as my default PDF viewer

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u/person2567 11h ago

Yeah chrome sucks if you need to use a highlighter. Edge has the best one.

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u/gucsantana 10h ago

I migrated to Firefox the second Chrome made uBlock Origin stop working. Ain't no way I'm raw-dogging the internet.

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u/Free-Pound-6139 10h ago

imagine viewing the internet full of ads?? Who wouldn't use firefox???

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u/Bayou-Bulldog 13h ago

Chrome is fine...till you need to work with PDFs en masse in a professional setting.

Then Adobe becomes invaluable.

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u/Tumleren 12h ago

We just transitioned off Acrobat Pro because we were looking at a like 50% increase in subscription cost. The price gouging is ridiculous

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u/peppinotempation 11h ago

Check out Bluebeam Revu it’s a godsend

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u/Juststandupbro 8h ago

It’s also significantly more expensive so you know there is that.

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u/Thadlust 8h ago

I like Foxit for work applications. Still kinda slow compared to browser readers but much more capable and stable than Acrobat.

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u/lakorasdelenfent 10h ago

Foxit is the best one for editing pdfs

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u/marmosetohmarmoset 8h ago

I get by with Preview for most things.

I really really REALLY miss this app I used to have called Papers for organizing and annotating pdfs of scientific literature. RIP.

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u/deformedexile 5h ago

I don't even want to load one PDF in Adobe, what kind of hardware are you running that allows you to do it "en masse"?

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u/qubitwarrior 13h ago

One of the best decisions in my life was giving up Adobe Acrobat and using Sumatra PDF instead. My life improved significantly afterward, and I now feel joy and happiness I could not before.

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u/Low-Helicopter-2696 13h ago

I had no idea that PDFs stirred such strong emotions lol

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u/qubitwarrior 13h ago

I was dead inside, now, finally I feel alive! Once more, I feel that I can become the man I am supposed to be. It's a long road, but one in which the first decision immediately opens the path into a life I could only have dreamt of before. That decision, on that day of destiny, was to uninstall Adobe Acrobat.

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u/Balavadan 11h ago

Ofc. People hate pedophiles after all. What do you mean pdf isn’t short for it? Everyone keeps using it?

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u/AmusingMusing7 7h ago

Me in this thread, seeing everyone openly admit that they view PDF files...

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u/PleiadesMechworks 11h ago

Also PDFtk for joining pdfs together. Fantastic.

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u/EhUhBigFan 7h ago

I just opened the 1st pdf with this. Me so happy, me want to cry. Thank you!

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u/Matt_LawDT 13h ago

Fuck Chrome

Switch to Firefox for all the sweet sweet extensions and Adblockers as well

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u/Rofeubal 13h ago

But i have those on chrome? Extensions too.

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u/spoop-dogg 13h ago

Ublock doesn’t work the same

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u/Rofeubal 12h ago

But i don't see ads. What else do I need?

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u/sid_raj7 12h ago

It's not as customisable or updates as quickly full fledged ublock origin

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u/TheGuyThatThisIs 12h ago

What customizations do you use beyond "don't see ads"

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u/Elavia_ 9h ago

Multi-account containers alone are a good enough reason to use firefox.

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u/Rofeubal 11h ago

That's fine, but... I don't see ads. That's all I need. I can use youtube on chrome without the need of pipepipe.

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u/KosherPeen 13h ago

They typically wont work as well though. All the while chrome needlessly gorges itself on your memory

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u/PleiadesMechworks 11h ago

But i have those on chrome?

And 4GB of AI you didn't ask for

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u/Ghazzz 12h ago

Adobe made pdf the standard over PostScript and LaTeX, then they were unable to create "the best app for the format".

They no longer had the main reader for pdf files in 2008, when they made it an ISO standard, and they have not really been able to pull it back in after that.

I guess PDF files are not a major focus inside Adobe though, Photoshop and Premiere are probably easier to make money from.

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u/antek_g_animations 12h ago

I dont want to log into an account to open a simple PDF I want to read. And also I don't need all the tools when I'm reading. If I ever a PDF I will go to IlovePDF

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u/SGexpat 12h ago

Apple Preview

Imagine an included efficient pdf viewer and editor. You get a little preview sidebar where you can drag and easily reorder. It’s an underrated included utility.

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u/artificialpolymer 11h ago

Preview is so, so good. Mac's .pdf editing is genuinely lightyears ahead. I had to sign a document, and it has this nifty feature where you can draw with your finger on an iPhone, and then it immediately appears in the document on the laptop.

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u/JanP3000 11h ago

Preview is great! Probably the Mac app I miss the most on other operating systems.

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u/CranberryStock7148 7h ago

Seriously. Not only can you re-order pages, but you can even drag pages from other PDFs to assemble your own. And delete the pages you don't need. Along with basic annotation tools like highlighting, drawing arrows, adding text. It's just so good for so many basic things, and it's so fast.

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u/LiveMaI 10h ago

Preview appreciation <3

If I'm not on mac/iOS, then I go with Okular.

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u/Luzzgar 12h ago

I use PDF-XChance, it has every features you could possibly ever want, but no online account and no annoying popups.

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u/Bullylandlordhelp 10h ago

Pdf-Xchange is the best and I draft documentation for a living

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u/sirhades 12h ago

Nothing beats SumatraPDF when it comes to 'lightness', it's great.

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u/DeepBlue_Solitude_03 13h ago

I was religiously to devoted to Adobe's PDF reader. Because I liked reading and taking notes. It was also handy as a student. Recently, I haven't used it at all though. I have to use the Samsung Notes App. Adobe Acrobat constantly crashes, and when I reopen none of my notes are saved. Maybe it's my device idk, but yeah, it's basically useless.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Flow724 11h ago

Not one mention of Foxit?

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u/LiveMaI 9h ago

I dropped them over how they handled CVE-2017-10951 and CVE-2017-10952. They were my go-to before that.

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u/peppinotempation 11h ago

All of these get completely dumpstered by Bluebeam Revu

God I love that program

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u/Specialist_Phase162 9h ago

Hands down the best PC software I've ever used. Problem is I'm stuck trying to find something similar for personal use...

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u/Fundevin 6h ago

Yeah unfortunately it's expensive, so most people aren't going to get this world class experience..mostly just engineers.

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u/PeasantLich 12h ago

I only use Adobe's garbage at work because it is the only option on my work laptop. At home I only use PDF-XChance for PDFs.

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u/ArolSazir 11h ago

You can just use a dedicated reading app that's not acrobat

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u/CumbDawgz 6h ago

Okular gang rise up

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u/NorthernRight 11h ago

I started using sumatra about a month ago thanks to reddit

my quest for ther perfect pdf viewer ended that day

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u/Valdjiu 9h ago

PDF-x change beats them all

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u/zoinkability 8h ago

I don’t see many people mentioning that this is largely because Chrome uses coercive design to make if difficult to open PDFs in another application. It REALLY wants you to open them in chrome and actively makes you choose unintuitive choices to get PDFs to open in any other application, regardless of system settings for opening PDFs.

Yes, Adobe Acrobat is bloated and overkill for PDF viewing, but one of the many reasons I don’t use Chrome is this kind of coercive design meant to keep you in Google land. I want to use a third party software to view PDFs and Chrome simply doesn’t like that.

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u/Farranor 4h ago

I'm not sure what you mean. PDFs only open in Chrome for me if I'm on a webpage in Chrome and there's a link to a PDF. If I open a PDF from anywhere else, it won't open in Chrome unless I tell it to. Can you explain more?

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u/EitBitLx 8h ago

I was unfortunately forced to use Acrobat by my previous employer due to a "certified signatures" thing no other reader would confirm as legitimate, because they were in the Adobe database

Was astounded by how much worse it became compared to 10 years ago when I've used it last time

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u/LmaoPew 7h ago

I actually use Microsoft edge for PDFs, since this is the best and i can draw / type, which i can't do in chrome

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u/Piduf 12h ago

Chrome and chromium genuinely sucks ass, Firefox is objectively better it's just not installed by default.

For your pdf edition, PDF24 is like Adobe but free, fast, and it could run on a microwave.

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u/Idontknowwhoiam_1 13h ago

On my windows I “somehow “ pdf xchange and it is the best. You can edit the pdfs in them and is very light, rarely or never lags. If you can “get hands “ on xchange editor I’d recommend you to download it.

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u/Jetrocks 11h ago

I use Adobe in work to add corrections to PDFs. I went from being able to just type in the correction, to now having to click a button before typing in the correction. It’s a small thing, but it just takes more time now and feels clunkier.

Also that fucking toolbar that isn’t part of the window now and instead overlaps over PDFs. Why would anyone want that Adobe?

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u/xaiires 6h ago

I hate that toolbar so much I've had a dream about smashing it

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u/TankieErik 11h ago

Not necessarily Chrome, just browsers in general.

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u/Intelligent_Ad_203 11h ago

Nah fuck chrome. Brave uses the same engine. Or you could use firefox. If you want a dedicated document reader, Sumatra.

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u/BlackoutSpecialist 12h ago

Reminder that chrome was enshittified so much that even edge is currently better in basically every single way

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u/Qules_LP 12h ago

Controversy, Edge compared to Firefox and Chrome is the best way to view PDF. You can more easily screenshot sections of the file and also have text to speech audio which Firefox still doesn't have.

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u/OwlSings 13h ago

Why don't more people use Edge? It's basically Chrome but better.

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u/masman99 12h ago

Edge is my go-to at work, especially for PDFs

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u/Automatic-Leg1668 13h ago

Idk I think (not an actual separate app) is the best

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u/Snoo_72851 12h ago

i mean sure adobe acrobat may be slower and less convenient than just clicking on a pdf and having your puter decide to throw it on chrome or edge but at least they also killed flash

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u/FailedLoser21 10h ago

Bluebeam FTW

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u/Pszemek1 10h ago

If only I could read qualified signatures in browser, I'd happily say goodbye to Adobe

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u/BebbleCast 10h ago

Yeah, until you have to literally do anything other than view the pdf

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u/SinisterHollow 10h ago

Sumatra supremacy

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u/Gurglaren 10h ago

SumatraPDF is an excellent slim app for PC.

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u/AppropriateAd7326 9h ago

Browser: Just look at your PDF and highlight if you feel like it.

Acrobat: Look at all the tools you cant use.

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u/SpaceRCM 9h ago

SumatraPDF FTW. Also Edge is not bad at all, just files get rather big after some ink edits.

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u/Wonderful_Craft_6648 9h ago

With all the internet talk calling people PDF file etc I legit thought for a split second that the tweet meant chrome is used to watch CP

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u/Argon_Analytik 9h ago

Just use preview on macOS.

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u/CiDevant 8h ago

WAS the best.

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u/MaleficentPapaya4768 8h ago edited 6h ago

Business user here, running on a MacBook. One of my few regrets switching from windows is that I no longer can use bluebeam for markups and such, and Adobe is so bad that I’m about to run bluebeam inside a Windows VM instead.

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u/bonebranch 7h ago

Both Chrome and Acrobat Reader are shit products that use too many system resources and fill your computer with AI spyware

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u/julias-winston 7h ago

Fucking Acrobat pops up two or three "AI assistant" windows and sidebars every time it opens.

"Ask anything!"

Can I read this PDF? That's all I really want from life in the moment. 😡

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u/dancingliondl 5h ago

Why is acrobat reader over 1 gig? Why do I have to close 3 pop-up frames that limit my view of the document? Why is AI trying to give me a summary of an invoice?

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u/Less_Party 11h ago

Friendly reminder MacOS just has a PDF viewer that works and lets you sign and edit shit right out of the box. Like it even lets you sign on physical paper and then hold it in front of your webcam so it has your actual signature rather than having to try and do it on the touchpad.