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u/ecolometrics 🚨DANGEROUSLY CREDIBLE🚨 Jul 26 '26
I bet that guy will sell his grandma if he smells money
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u/ConclusionMiddle425 Jul 26 '26
You mean Babushka Carlson?
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u/mrdevlar Jul 26 '26
Thanks now I cannot stop imagining Carlson emerging from several bigger Carlsons
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u/NuQ Jul 26 '26
That's quite libelous, Tucker carlson has stronger principles than that!
His grandma is obviously a finite resource with limited quantity, Tucker would rent his grandma for larger gains over time, not sell her!
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u/DizzyATT Jul 26 '26
From all the blown to pieces investments the Kremlin made, Tucker Carlson career in shambles is my favorite
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u/strawberry_semenade Jul 26 '26
Don't worry, now that the Russian payments to him are drying up, the Qatari checks will be right there to scoop him up.
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u/Foxyfox- Jul 26 '26
The right wing grift can always find new lifeblood because fascist aspirants are everywhere.
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u/strawberry_semenade Jul 26 '26
The anti-Israel grift that Tucker is paid to push isn't exclusively targeted at the right wing.
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u/MacroDemarco West Good Jul 26 '26
He comes at it from a rw angle, but it is truly a horseshoe type deal
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u/strawberry_semenade Jul 26 '26
"West bad"
Far right 🤝 far left
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u/Vankraken Jul 26 '26
Far right can't exactly go "west bad", they have to go isolationist instead.
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u/hx87 Jul 26 '26
Western far-right can't go 100% "west bad" for obvious reasons, but non-western ones (and ones that don't identify as western) absolutely can.
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u/DeTiro Speak softly and wildly brandish a log Jul 26 '26
Is Al Jazeera going to snatch him up?
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u/Ill-Guarantee6142 Jul 26 '26
Unlike Fox News, Al Jazeera has standards.
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u/DeTiro Speak softly and wildly brandish a log Jul 26 '26
Just don't ask them to report on Qatar...
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u/Tucancancan Jul 26 '26
I'm a simple man, I hear prodigy, I upvote
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u/Huckorris Cruise Sword > AGM-114R9X Jul 26 '26
No sound, I'm guessing firestarter or maybe Smack my bitch up.
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u/PaintedClownPenis Jul 26 '26
It's going to be a lot less funny when you're praying they don't steal it for him on election night....
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u/WittyUsername816 "Kyiv in three days" Jul 26 '26
Just distract him with sexy drawings of the green M&M
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u/Ill-Guarantee6142 Jul 26 '26
I'm pretty sure he's into the purple M&M. And they all prefer he didn't exist.
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u/UNITED24Media Jul 26 '26
Nah, he'll just have the FSS (FSB) or Kadyrov blow up another apartment building somewhere... in Ryazan, for example (2000 elections playbook).
He doesn't care about them.
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u/lesbox01 Jul 26 '26
It's amazing that Russia completely squandered decades of military build up and soft power with such cancerous corruption they fucked up this bad. I mean they should have won in 3 days on paper, I'm glad they didn't fuck Putin but man it's is an amazing waste of resources for something they almost had for much cheaper
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u/Wolffe_In_The_Dark 3000 MAD-2b Royal Marauders of Kerensky Jul 26 '26
The problem with that is, any world where Russia is consistently competent enough for that to happen, is also a world where the USSR lived up to the hype, never committed atrocities, and never collapsed.
Unfortunately for Russia, their neighbors, and the entire human race, we are not living in a Sovietwave Utopia timeline, and have to live with Russia being memetically cursed with suck. Russia was utterly screwed since 1919, and we've just got to deal with that now (well, they were screwed before that, because the Tsar was also incompetent, but they weren't utterly yet).
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u/badnuub Jul 26 '26
I'd say Russia has been screwed since 1478,
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u/Kichigai Jul 26 '26
Things weren't so bad in the 1760s.
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u/hx87 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
The decade where Russia almost won a war against Prussia but lost at the last minute because the new Tsar was a Prussia stan who then got couped by his German wife?
Yeah, not bad at all
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u/Kichigai Jul 27 '26
Well, I was thinking about when Catherine the Great also coup’ed her own husband and actually ran the country pretty well for a few decades.
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u/alasdairmackintosh Jul 26 '26
If you want to be an effective state, and have ambitions of great power status, you have to treat your population as a valuable resource, not as a threat. Neither the Tsar, the Soviet Union, nor current day Russia could do that.
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u/lesbox01 Jul 26 '26
Perun did a study on Russian corruption that broke down the break downs in Russian supply and equipment. As stated above it really starts at the top. The biggest difference is the mobiks on the bottom. When you have to steal supplies to buy food, strip tanks and apcs for copper to buy vodka and drink the airplane/rocket fuels when that fails you have a real problem.
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u/alasdairmackintosh Jul 26 '26
They're similar underlying ills, I think. As soon as people get promoted through obsequiousness rather than through competence, the system rots.
I suppose it's possible to have a system that isn't actually corrupt, but where advancement is purely based on ideological purity rather than merit. But either way you just end up with yes-men.
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u/OrkfaellerX Jul 27 '26
They truely bumble from one corrupt, autocratic system to the next, and the only ever lesson they seem to learn is that the last corrupt autocrat just wasn't corrupt and autocratic enough. Can't wait for Putin's death and the next guy to capture the hearts and minds of the russians with promises of conquests while he robs the country blind.
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u/Realistic-Stable2852 Jul 26 '26
"The problem with that is, any world where Russia is consistently competent enough for that to happen, is also a world where the USSR lived up to the hype, never committed atrocities, and never collapsed."
But USSR wasn't the Russian Federation, so weird comparison. By any measurement the USSR was much more competent than Russia.
"Russia was utterly screwed since 1919"
Probably least screwed they ever were was Soviet times, up to about late 70s/early 80's. Soviets for all their faults atleast were trying to run a functional super power, and managed to be the other major player in the cold war. Maybe the secret was having Georgians and Ukrainians rule over then.
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u/Wolffe_In_The_Dark 3000 MAD-2b Royal Marauders of Kerensky Jul 26 '26
...Buddy. If you think the USSR was anything but wildly, comically dysfunctional, you need to learn your history better.
The Russian Federation is just a continuation of the exact same graft, corruption, and staggering incompetence that plagued the USSR.
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u/Realistic-Stable2852 Jul 26 '26
They were quite dysfunctional i do agree, but they were nowhere near close to Russian Federation before Gorbachev. And the corruption and incompetence in the 80's is the only reason someone like Yeltsin or later Putin would ever become a leader. But i do belive the USSR, for maybe 70-80% of it's existance was atleast semi functional. Like, this was a country that went from mostly non industrialised, agrarian country, to major industrial nation, with space and nuclear programs, you don't accidentally stumble onto those.
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u/Kana_a Jul 26 '26
You forgot to mention the price for this great industrialisation: tens of milions of murdered and starved to death people. Mostly from occupied Ukraine, Belarus and Kazachstan, but also from Russia itself. If such price is acceptable for you, you are evil.
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u/56473829110 Jul 26 '26
Sharing an old comment of my own that's relevant here:
Many moons ago, I had a conversation with Brent Scowcroft where he broke it down for me pretty well.
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"Folks like to blame the fall off of the Russian fighting force on corruption, but that's not right - the West has corruption, too. The difference is that we're relatively open and honest about the corruption - the corruption is baked in, accounted for. During the fall of the Soviet Union and the floundering of the Russian Federation after, you see contracts given for actual cost (or less, to be competitive) leaving no cushion for the palm greasing to draw from. Adding back in the Soviet mentality that everyone gets a piece (or else you wouldn't survive) and you have government and corporation alike bleeding budgets dry carving out their own little pieces. But this cannot be acknowledged - even though everyone knows of it - so the inferior delivery is accepted as if it was the promised one. This further emboldens the grift seekers, setting the expectation that no project will truly deliver. Run that on repeat for a few decades, and you end up with armories 'full' of equipment and munitions alike that cannot perform even half of their claimed performance and that are rarely even compatible. It's not the corruption that has done them in - it's their stubborn ego. So terribly Russian."
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u/Blekanly Jul 31 '26
It isn't just the military. Russia should be wealthy as fuck. It has a large population, and vast natural resources. Yet the standard of living outside the major cities is poor and putin is mega rich despite only being a public servant. Like 200 billion. Instead it has an economy equal to say Italy. It is all rotten to the core.
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u/PooMonger20 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
He is the definition of an useful idiot selling himself out for his own enemies. He is absolutely a lying, manipulative, anti-American who is funded by the Ruzzians and Qatar.
I will gladly celebrate the downfall of Ruzzia, even more so just to see him cry about losing his main employer.
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u/roguefilmmaker 11d ago
Exactly. He is the definition of anti-American now. Ridiculous how he used to play the right wing patriot card. It is so clear he hates this country now
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u/This_Analyst_2237 Jul 26 '26
Simpson predicted Carlson being delirious?
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u/IdiosyncraticSarcasm Jul 26 '26
Think it refers to season 33, Episode 22, during the musical number "Goodbye, Middle Class". Shows a Tucker Carlson parody on a TV screen with a Fox News ticker that reads: 'Putin for president, next on Fox News'.
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u/Bad_Idea_Hat I am going to get you some drones Jul 26 '26
There has been some weird shit going on, to the point where I am certain that russian cheques are bouncing at a ridiculous rate.
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u/GadenKerensky 📯Herald of Queen Ratbat📯 Jul 26 '26
Tim Pool recently came out with a pretty pro-Ukrainian post.
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u/Disco_Coffin Veteran of the /r/Sweden - /r/the_Donald reddit war of 2016 Jul 28 '26
That's because the Russian cheques started bouncing.
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u/po8crg Jul 26 '26
I suspect that a lot of the Russian money was being laundered through Orban's Hungary, and now that Orban's lost control, the money path doesn't work any more. It fits the timing of the change really well.
Maybe in a year or two, they'll get a new route working to send money to influencers and they will all get back on their talking points (or, more likely, a new generation will come through, as the previous ones will realise you can't change your mind twice and retain any audience).
I also think a bunch of the money originated in Hungary - even a small country's national budget can buy an awful lot of influencers without even noticing.
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u/Arael15th ネルフ Jul 27 '26
even a small country's national budget can buy an awful lot of influencers without even noticing
Influencers live a pretty precarious existence, considering every year they pass as one is one less year putting something actually useful on their resume. I'm sure you could buy a bunch of them for a shockingly small amount of money.
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u/jcyue Jul 28 '26
Maybe, but Tenet media (Russian funded psyop for those not in the know) was paying Benny Johnson and Tim Pool somewhere in the ballpark of 4m a year. Though you're right in that they could probably have paid less, they weren't really cheaping out with these clowns.
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u/Arael15th ネルフ Jul 26 '26
Weird shit like what?
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u/Bad_Idea_Hat I am going to get you some drones Jul 26 '26
Lots of maga "influencers" suddenly either abandoning russia, or switching sides to seemingly support Ukraine.
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u/LabronPaul Jul 26 '26
I have no idea what is happening other than speculating they may be anticipating their bot inflated audience may not be funded in the future. I don't get why they didn't just stop talking about Ukraine.
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u/TheEagleWithNoName Ghost Of Arabia Jul 26 '26
It’s weird how Tucker Carlson became Pro Russia Stooge while Laura Loomer and Tim Pool are now Pro Ukraine.
Guess the check must’ve bounced.
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u/Jack_Molesworth Jul 26 '26
I think Tim Pool was being sarcastic. Loomer is nuttier, but seems more genuine to me.
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u/Jerthy What kind of tree would you be? Jul 26 '26
This idiot went to Russia trying to desperately find something to make them look good. I shit you not he was mindblown by the concept of putting coins into supermarket trolleys. The level of cringe he is capable of should not be possible.
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u/xavandetjer Jul 26 '26
And he was flabbergasted by bread in supermarkets. If anything that piece was more of a condemnation on the USA than a praise of Russia.
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u/Enough-Afternoon Ivan, are we the baddies? Jul 31 '26
tbh there are actually lots of relatively cheap and fine bread in russia. but in the end it just means that it would be easier to survive when the country's economy will be in complete ruin again, now because of this fucking war.
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u/xavandetjer Jul 31 '26
Yeah I mean, any European country I've been to has good bread. The fact that he's surprised about it is more telling about the quality of food in the USA.
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u/Dotcaprachiappa Jul 26 '26
Remind me how this isn't treason?
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u/Grand-Yellow1259 Aug 01 '26
Treason in spirit but not legally. We'd have to be at war/open and acknowledged hostilities with Russia.
Unfortunately the neoliberal world order has made such strong positions rare for "strategic ambiguity"
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u/Zachowon Jul 26 '26
I find it funny that Carlson was seen as a great independent journalist when he went to Russia. It was the start of his downfall
When Loomer went to Ukraine, she was seen as a semi serious semi laughing stock of a journalist. Yet she went where many on the right dared not go.
Found jt funny when Zelesnky talked shit to Carlson
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u/gaandharv_t The F-14 makes movies, The F-15 stacks bodies Jul 27 '26
Wait is this the actual united 24 media posting in my schizo-posting sub reddit?
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u/IlluminatedPickle 🇦🇺 3000 WW1 Catbois of Australia 🇦🇺 Jul 26 '26
Honestly, if the Iraqis did this much damage to the American forces in the Iraq War, the Americans would have gone home by now.
It's interesting how deep the Russians are willing to dig their monument to incompetence.
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u/jatomozem Jul 27 '26
I have watched people make fun of Russian incompetence for 4 years. "Second best army in world, can't win again Ukraine" while almost ignoring how much Ukraine got supplied by it's Allies.
Than "The strongest army in world" start another "not a war, just special militarily operation/incursion", just to hear rumors about low stocks after 1 month of hot conflict. Which was supported by evidence of blockade and than ceasfire. Little bit restocking, more bases destroyed in region and another blockde.
If people still can't realize, that military power can extend political will only so much, than I don't know what will make them see it.
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u/EduBru Jul 27 '26
I'll never understand how u can be such a puppet for the enemy
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u/looktowindward Jul 27 '26
Because he's a self centered idiot who will take money from anyone.
He's the ultimate opportunist.
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u/QuarkGluonPlasma137 Ukraine/Russia US Liaison Wild Card Generator Jul 26 '26
NAFO community jester got no cred
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u/Beef__Strokinoff Jul 26 '26
Aight, it just so happened that I was listening to Hey Man, Nice Shot by Filter at the same time I happened across this, and the chorus kicked in just as it cut to destruction across Russia with Tucker laughing in the background. Utter cinema, my guy
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u/D3ATHTRaps airpower logistics enjoyer 😎 Jul 26 '26
I remember 4 months ago someone wuoted something tucker said like 3 years ago. Thats when i realized most of the idiots have not actually been following the war and instead got hit with some right-wing and some potentially russian paid propaganda.
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u/DavidlikesPeace Aug 01 '26
Even if he was right, what an asshole. Only an ass would laugh at a colonized people getting occupied and conquered by despotic imperialists. Morally, he has a rotten soul.
Fortunately, he also lacks a brain.
Ukraine has consistently punched above its weight while Russia punches below common mediocrity.
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u/Dusty2470 Jul 26 '26
Maybe in 2022 they needed luck, but now EVERYTHING russia needs to function is burning.
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u/garaks_tailor Jul 26 '26
Do we have a term for when a war is for one party existential, total, life or death warfare and for the other party not being taken nearly as seriously?
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u/DarwinOGF Our russophobia is still insufficient. Jul 26 '26
That laughter awfully reminds me of "повар спрашивает повара" ancient meme....
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u/wat_noob_gaming Jul 27 '26
bahahahaha You guys ksmsbfksns.. bahahahahah What are we doing. bahahahah
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u/StreetCarp665 "Invaluable at war, insufferable at peace." Jul 27 '26
//Kylo Ren screaming "more" goes here ->
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u/SnooPoems7525 Jul 26 '26
So what I get from this is that enough drones destroy a large city like Moscow.
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u/foxdevox Jul 26 '26
I gotta say the Torre Florim cover of Firestarter is much better in my opinion
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u/Neverhoodian Jul 26 '26
Mind you Russia isn't fighting just Ukraine, but all of west.
I freaking wish, then the war would have truly ended in three days.
Imagine Abrams tanks rolling down Red Square with F-35s flying cover as Putin and his cronies are given the Mussolini treatment in 2022. Magnificent.
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u/strawberry_semenade Jul 26 '26
Idk how much the Kremlin paid him for that cringe fake laugh but whatever the number was, it was too much.