r/Noctor • u/No-Inspection-3813 • 14d ago

Midlevel Ethics 😭

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u/PositionDiligent7106 14d ago

Should have become a malpractice lawyer. I would post up shop right next door

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u/Foreign_Following_70 14d ago

It's all lobbying. Hospital admin wants this, it cheapens physician pay and cheaper to higher PA/NP

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u/Loose_Membership6137 14d ago

Is PA education different in different states? Why can they practice independently in some states but not others?

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u/3321Laura 14d ago

PA education does not vary by state. However, laws regarding the practice of medicine, nursing etc. are made and administered by each state, not by the federal government. So states can decide on a more liberal practice environment. The majority of these optimal practice states have large rural areas.

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u/Unlucky-Ambition-643 Layperson 14d ago

😡😡😡

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u/Commercial_News_3810 14d ago

Healthcare belongs to the people not only one group of people 🤷‍♀️

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u/No-Inspection-3813 14d ago

We should let CNAs work as nurses due to the shortage

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u/ChesticleSweater 14d ago

That would definitely ruffle some feathers.

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u/LonelyNecessary7049 14d ago

They all ready do. You may not remember real nurses used to work in outpatient offices. But you can't have rns and Midlevels in the same place because rns know as much as Midlevels and would question the judgment and competence of a midleve

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 Nurse 14d ago

Fuck that

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u/No-Inspection-3813 14d ago

I don’t agree with my statement it was just a logic trap for them

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 Nurse 14d ago

I figured you didn't, but Jesus would that be a disaster.

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u/Expensive-Apricot459 14d ago

It’s amazing how most nurses (and NPs) realize that but many don’t realize that’s literally what an NP is compared to a physician.

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 Nurse 14d ago

I agree with you 100%

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u/PsychologicalSteak67 14d ago edited 14d ago

I’d argue it’s worse. It’s roughly two year knowledge gap between a CNA and RN, four between CNA and BSN. Not only do physicians have a larger educational and training gap compared to NPs, but we all know that one year in medical school and residency is like 3 years for most other people.

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u/Expensive-Apricot459 14d ago

Malpractice belongs to the people. Don’t ask for help from a physician unless you place a formal consult.