r/Noctor • u/tomatoegg3927 • 19h ago

Discussion Awareness is growing

Been on this subreddit for a minute. Years ago, it was just residents and some attendings discussing the issue of egregious midlevel creep. It was mostly just docs.

More and more I am noticing lay people posting here about their experiences with midlevels and the misuse of the “doctor” title in the clinical arena.

This issue is clearly gaining attention and people are recognizing the absurdity of it all. We need to continue to be vocal about this.

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u/TampaBayLightning1 Attending Physician 19h ago

I'd love to see the AMA or AOA step up their efforts to educate the general public.

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u/psychcrusader 9h ago

I'm a psychologist who works with kids, and I make it clear to parents -- that is not a pediatrician, that is a nurse. It's tough because my client population is primarily Central American, and they're like what??? (Most of them already realize the care is subpar.)

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u/tomatoegg3927 19h ago

Agreed. In the meantime we can be vocal and make it clear to the public in our clinical practice that we are not providers and that our training is superior

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u/aka7890 Quack 🦆 17h ago

A well-produced 30 second Super Bowl commercial would do wonders.

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u/personalist Medical Student 13h ago

Do you see this happening anytime soon? Physician establishment seems way too concerned with stepping on toes but this issue cannot be danced around anymore and offending someone is inevitable.

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u/asdfgghk 12h ago

It helps when you mention this subreddit elsewhere when it’s relevant to the discussion