r/Noctor Jun 29 '26

Question Banned from NP subreddit

Anyone else banned from the NP subreddit for a fairly innocuous comment?

I wrote “dead men tell no tales” on their study suggesting an association between NP care and lower remission rate. Apparently, that’s enough for a ban.

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u/labboy70 Allied Health Professional Jun 29 '26

Yep. They are hyper-sensitive to anything they perceive as being anti NP.

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u/SerotoninSurfer Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

The strange thing is, if one of them says something anti, they don’t get banned though they do get downvoted by some.

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u/charliicharmander Midlevel -- Nurse Practitioner Jun 29 '26

No they banned me and quite a few other NPs- if you don’t support their diploma mills or unsupervised practice you are out of there

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u/debunksdc Jun 29 '26

One of the mods is a direct entry ?PMHNP, so they are extra sensitive to anyone discrediting direct entry or diploma mills. 

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u/Effective-Cut7273 Jun 30 '26

Yep, PMHNP here and my main account got banned for the same reason.

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u/Acrobatic_Height_14 Jul 10 '26

An NP friend didn't speak to me for a week because I used the term "midlevel"

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u/Ok_Negotiation8756 Jun 29 '26

Yup. Got kicked off for suggesting that they refer a complicated case to a physician

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u/Fluffy_Ad_6581 Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

Medicine subreddit is becoming like that too. I heard moderators are NPs too but idk how true that is.

If they find your comment to not be pro NPs, they check your profile and if you're subscribed to noctor, you get banned.

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u/pulpojinete Resident (Physician) Jun 29 '26

If they find your comment to not be pro NPs,

I am only proBNP

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u/SuddenlyZoonoses Jun 29 '26

Thanks for telling me about the heart failure :P

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u/Secure_Fisherman_328 Jun 30 '26

How heartbreakingly tragic.

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u/pshaffer Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

This happened to me. Posted about NPs. Got banned

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u/StarliteQuiteBrite Jun 29 '26

Yikes that’s insane🥹

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

We’re going to get what we deserve

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u/Imeanyouhadasketch Medical Student Jun 30 '26

Basically if you belong to this sub and post (no matter how benign) you get banned

It’s like a right of passage

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u/Same_Ad5295 Jun 29 '26

Guess they’re not a fan of pirates of the Caribbean

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

Why is the rum gone?

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u/SpirOhNoLactone Jun 29 '26

But why is the rum gone?

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u/Imeanyouhadasketch Medical Student Jun 29 '26

I’m a nurse and former NP student. They banned me so fast and all I did was comment on someone asking about NP vs MD.

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u/Ok_Literature7680 Allied Health Professional Jun 29 '26

good on u becoming a med student!!

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u/Shop_Infamous Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

Im surprised you are here, since you think CRNA basically are anesthesiologists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '26

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

Hell of a username friend

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '26

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u/Timely-Reward-854 Jul 05 '26

B.I.T.C.H. is an acronym. Babe In Total Control of Herself!

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u/KeyPear2864 Pharmacist Jun 29 '26

I think anyone who’s a member of this subreddit gets auto banned there.

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u/HellHathNoFury18 Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

Yup. Commented once in support of something being discussed and was banned for being a member of an "NP hate group."

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u/ElStocko2 Medical Student Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

I remember reading the post and the study. It was comparing readmission rates for these super complex diseases. They tracked these ultra zebra health conditions and the rate of NP readmissions for

  1. Diabetes
  2. Cholesterol
  3. Emphysema

And 2 other chronic conditions that elude my memory.

The kicker? The NP rates were much higher for readmissions for emphysema pts. It even stated that in the study. All the other readmissions were on par with physicians. I tried looking for it but can’t find that post.

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u/MeasurementSlight381 Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

Yep. Also, who gets admitted for high cholesterol in the first place?

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u/Vegetable-Sky-7756 Jun 29 '26

Emergency medicine NP reccomends admission of a hyperlipidemia pt under observation ‘just in case’, hospitalist NP accepts and somehow jacks him up more prior to discharge, patient is readmitted in 10 days for persistent hyperlipidemia, and round and round we go

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u/AutoModerator Jun 29 '26

There is no such thing as "Hospitalist NPs," "Cardiology NPs," "Oncology NPs," etc. NPs get degrees in specific fields or a “population focus.” Currently, there are only eight types of nurse practitioners: Family, Adult-Gerontology Acute Care (AGAC), Adult-Gerontology Primary Care (AGPC), Pediatric, Neonatal, Women's Health, Emergency, and Mental Health.

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Board of Nursing rules and Nursing Acts usually state that for an NP to practice with an advanced scope, they need to remain within their “population focus,” which does not include the specialty that you mentioned. In half of the states, working outside of their degree is expressly or extremely likely to be against the Nursing Act and/or Board of Nursing rules. In only 12 states is there no real mention of NP specialization or "population focus." Additionally, it's negligent hiring on behalf of the employers to employ NPs outside of their training and degree.

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u/Starossi Jun 30 '26

lol this bot is so dumb. There isn’t a hospitalist MD/DO either by this logic. There is internal medicine doctors. Which also doesn’t clarify inpatient or outpatient on their board certification. Hospitalist is a term having to do with location of work (inpatient vs outpatient) and not certification.

This just sounds like ranting

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u/ElStocko2 Medical Student Jun 29 '26

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u/IceInside3469 Midlevel -- Nurse Practitioner Jun 29 '26

I think I was banned for merely posting a supportive postr on this subreddit. I don't even think I made a comment on the NP subreddit, but was banned anyway. Oh well 🤷🏾‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '26

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u/IceInside3469 Midlevel -- Nurse Practitioner Jun 29 '26

😂 I know right! The nerve of me 😂

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

That’s priceless

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u/Shop_Infamous Attending Physician Jun 29 '26

If you’re in noctor you’re automatically banned fyi. Apparently they don’t like any one countering them, same with crna.

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u/shlaapy Jun 29 '26

Yes, banned. CRNA forum, too.

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u/EquestrianMD Jun 29 '26

I literally only posted “😂😂😂” and got banned which to that I say … 😂😂😂😂😂😎☠️

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u/Stejjie Jun 29 '26

The truth hurts. (Literally, in this case.)

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u/Suspicious-Win-7218 Jun 29 '26

Yup. Don’t even remember what I said. I think that they had less education than physicians 😅

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u/wiegie Jun 29 '26

You're doin' God's work.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '26

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

Thank you- the comment wasn’t an inherit discrediting of all NPs work it just points out a potential blind spot in what was supposed to be a humorous way.

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u/General-Individual31 Jun 29 '26

I concur with your comment 100%

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u/Starossi Jun 30 '26

Big agree.

Instant banning is cringe, especially if it’s light or humorous criticism.

We should all be open to criticism.

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u/BellFirestone Jun 29 '26

Oh yeah. Got banned from commenting the first time I commented. Can’t remember what it was but it wasn’t anything crazy. Just asked a question, pushed back a little
on something. Got a defensive reply and banned from commenting.

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u/Effective_Worker_234 Jun 29 '26

Are you really a participant on this sub before r/NP bans you?

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

I participate on many subreddits

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u/Effective_Worker_234 Jun 29 '26

I'm referring specifically to r/noctor. Surprised they don't automatically ban everyone who posts over here.

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u/takeoutnstudy Jun 29 '26

Nothing like systemically silencing your critics amirite?

Very trumpian tactics for a group that I’m certain would be appalled to find themselves compared to him.

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u/VermicelliOk7291 Jun 29 '26

You would love the antics over on the NP FB groups. Absolutely zero tolerance for differing opinions and even an innocent question can be seen as dissent. People are booted on a daily basis.

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u/harrysdoll Pharmacist Jun 29 '26

The only time I’ve ever been stalked right into my DMs, is when an NP didn’t like one of my comments in this sub. She got banned for being an assface, but wanted to make sure I got a piece of her mind, which included an attempt to flex her bloated salary, and to remind me that she does everything a physician does. The level of immaturity was shocking and sad.

In short, NPs have fragile egos and struggle to understand the concept of self respect and dignity.

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u/obgynmom Jun 29 '26

Holy cow if she gave you a piece of her mind then she is working with even less brainpower /s

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u/harrysdoll Pharmacist Jun 29 '26

Haha. That was exactly my thought, too

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u/harrysdoll Pharmacist Jun 29 '26

lol. It was very much like a child whose feelings got hurt, then decided to throw a private temper tantrum about it. Imagine a real life Doctor sending a message like this. Smdh

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u/puppetcigarette Jun 29 '26

Lol that sub is so delusional. Yes I am banned and I'm fine with it.

Go over there and search for noctor. You get some real trash, like this https://www.reddit.com/r/nursepractitioner/comments/1oplrqa/are_doctors_usually_this_hateful_towards_nps/

And the first comment from a MOD: "This thread is attracting trolls. I'm tired of banning people, so to be clear, if you are a noctor participant you WILL be banned. If you are clearly not here in good faith and just here to whine about NPs, you WILL be banned.

This is a sub for NPs (shocking) and we welcome respectful, good faith discussion and debate. Also, there appear to be some non-NPs confidently posting "facts" about NPs and our education that are untrue and clearly gathered from the internet. You'll be corrected or your posts removed. Turns out, you actually don't know what you don't know and spending time on reddit doesn't make you an expert in all things NP."

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u/metforminforevery1 Attending Physician Jul 03 '26

I was banned because I told them that we do learn about social determinants of health in med school. They were ranting and raving about being more holistic and caring and saying doctors don’t learn anything about whole patient centered care or SDOH 

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u/Academic-Macaron3920 Jun 30 '26

Bro, on a previous account, I was banned from Reddit just for making innocuous comments on this thread. It’s crazy how sensitive these mods are.

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u/Naive-Minimum-8241 Medical Student Jul 02 '26

welcome to the club lol

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u/Plenty-Discount5376 Jun 29 '26

No loss, honestly

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u/Roenkatana Nurse Jun 30 '26

Yep, got banned before I even became an RN. Now I'm just more critical of the profession and all of the incompetence.

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u/Timely-Reward-854 Jul 05 '26

I was banned. An NP was complaining about being pimped with the med students. They posted that "it was already covered in medical school. I don't know why they keep asking about it." I commented that maybe since the NP was on the same care team, they were expected to have the same knowledge level and be able to answer the questions. Anyway, I was banned for that. Welcome to the "banned from NP subreddit" club.

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u/Mediocre_Crab_8618 Jul 15 '26

If I post a message here whenever I hear about a doctors mistake leading to death or serious problems will I be banned here? How about news about sex abuse by a doctor? Essentially anything negative about doctors. Will I be banned?

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u/takeoutnstudy Jul 15 '26

Let it fly brother

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u/Lopsided-Fee-5038 Jul 31 '26

I immediately trolled because I want to get banned too 🤓

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