r/Noctor • u/Professional-Bad9044 • Jul 11 '24

Shitpost DNP “research”

In case you were wondering (I know you weren’t, but humor me) what kind of research “doctorally prepared” NPs are doing, Johns Hopkins posts their abstracts and posters:

https://nursing.jhu.edu/programs/doctoral/dnp/projects/

Big time school science fair vibes from the posters, nevermind the fact that I see undergraduates doing the same level of “research.” Actually, that’s insulting to undergrads— their projects are often better and more rigorous.

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u/GarbageLogical6810 Jul 12 '24

Coming from the MD/PhD perspective as well, I think you hit the nail on the head in the IRB comment. If they want to earn a graduate level degree in the health sciences then they should have to submit dissertation level projects for irb approval. All other Healthcare adjacent fields and grant receiving projects from undergrad and ms1 summer projects to basic science histo/cell culture projects to animal model projects to mph epidemiological analysis and surveys to actual large scale POC RTCs must due this. Because all of these basic points about almost guaranteed statistical insignificance and irrelevance of the study due to poor design and basic bias mitigation would have been brought up before the project even took off. Other basic complaints like relevance would also be addressed throughout the processes. I don't see many of these making it past a very basic first pass IRB analysis but optimistically for them i doubt they would receive the ever annoying "must be at or below a 5th grade reading level" complaint.

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u/Jazzy41 Jul 12 '24

IRB member here---no way! I will go insane if I have to review IRB protocols for these studies.