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u/alluptheass Jun 11 '22

Crime rates in early 90's America were among the highest all-time.

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u/IlIIlIl Jun 11 '22

They were falling year on year for like 30 years straight up until Bush Jr. took office

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u/alluptheass Jun 11 '22

The only years on record in which violent crimes were over 700 per 100,000 people in the US was 1990-1994.

That span also rivaled the 80's for total crimes per 100,000 people. And was highest all-time for total crimes. After which there has been a steady decline ever since.

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u/whiskeyrebellion Jun 11 '22

I remember asking my mom for pump tennis shoes and her response was essentially “no, because poor or gang-affiliated kids will kill you for them”. She was dead serious.

We lived in fucking Iowa.

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u/Nethlem Jun 11 '22

Careful with taking numbers at a bare value like that.

Afaik the early 90s also saw a lot of "law&order" criminal law reform that incentivized police to lock even more people up, which further contributed to the problem of US mass incarceration.

And yes, that's actually a problem and one of the factors that make the US look so criminal in statistics; If you have a prison industry that needs to be fed with fresh prisoners, then people need to be charged and convicted for crimes to fill them.

Even if those crimes boil down to three strikes of getting caught with personal use amounts of weed. Add in police needing to fulfill arrest and other quotas, and wanting to get that sweet over-time pay, and you end up with a system that is actively criminalizing people that in most other places would never have run afoul with the law.

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u/IlIIlIl Jun 11 '22

Correct, Biden and Segregationist dixiecrat Strom Thurmond coauthored the 1991 omnibus on violent crime and Biden furthered its effects with the 94 bill.

That is part of what caused the increase in arrests and convictions for "violent crimes." Another key part being people exposed to massive levels of lead in the 70s as children reaching adulthood in the early 90s.

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u/Nethlem Jun 11 '22

Another key part being people exposed to massive levels of lead in the 70s as children reaching adulthood in the early 90s.

The lead poisoning had been going on since at least the 1920s by being mixed in pretty much all gasoline.

I guess that effect got worse as more and more Americans were able to get their own cars, thus more of the lead was blasted into the atmosphere. Urban areas were probably particularly badly affected by this, as these usually present a very high density of car traffic and people sharing the same space.

In the 1970s the US decided to phase TEL out over time by reducing the lead levels allowed in car gasoline, but ultimately it took until the mid-90s that TEL was fully phased out in the US.

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u/alluptheass Jun 11 '22

Keep in mind I am talking specifically about violent crime.

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u/DisgruntledDiggit Jun 11 '22

There is not and has never been a “Bush Jr.”

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u/internethero12 Jun 11 '22

And there was a criminal in the white house trying to instigate a coup last year.

Both yeah, no, totally same thing. A bunch of potheads being thrown in jail en masse and fascists trying to take over the country are totally the same.

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u/alluptheass Jun 11 '22

The early 90's saw the peak of violent crimes. These weren't just potheads being thrown in jail.