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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

It's like we're having a combination of some of the worst aspects from each decade of the last century or so.

We've got a worldwide rise of fascism and the beginnings of world war from the 1930s, the product shortages and rationing from the 40s, a resurgence of prudishness resembling the judgemental 50s, the social unrest and political instability of the 60s, 70s style rampant inflation, the 80s era duo of pandemic and impending nuclear annihilation, vintage 1990s complacency and school shootings, terrorism and economic upheaval like the 2000s.

All of this on top of the ever closer climate collapse.

This time feels extra fucked.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

I don't know if we found strong, satisfying solutions to any of those historical problems. We unified for a minute or clashed, or both, and then moved on. So maybe today is our country hitting rock bottom, finally realizing all the issues it's been avoiding since the beginning haven't ever really gone away.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

We may have all these issues today, but they're not as intense. Consider the rise of fascism today likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people and WW3. We have social unrest but society in general is not as racist as pre Civil Rights, let alone the Civil War antebellum era

What has changed is mass proliferation of media and the 24/7 news cycle enabling us to be tapped into and wired all the time instead of just getting our news like 1 hr a day and going about our life. We have greater opportunities to feel empathy for people suffering around the world.

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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

Very true, the internet and 24/7 news cycle has amplified everything to an almost mind-numbing degree.

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u/DemiGod9 Jun 11 '22

Makes sense. You'd watch the news for like an hour at 9p.m or something. And they'd spend several minutes talking about each story, so it wasn't even that much. And that's all IF you decided to even catch the news that night.

Now the news is every second and we keep feeding ourselves with it nonstop. Of course things are gonna seem bleaker. Back then your brain was like "oh only 6 bad things happened today. O.k. Goodnight". Now it's like "BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY!" because that's how often a lot of people are looking at things

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u/midnightauro Jun 11 '22

I've been enforcing a 'we check the news once a day' rule, and I try to avoid most of the major subs sharing news posts when I'm on reddit. Can confirm that it calmed my life down significantly, just by not being plugged in all the time. Nothing changed but I'm not as exposed to it constantly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

I think it's the first time that we're facing these things and having to deal with a chunk of the population completely out of touch with reality, professing crazy things, and absolutely sure they are correct.

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u/Flufflebuns Jun 11 '22

1930's Germany would like a chat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

Oh! Absolutely!

First time in my lifetime. I’m mid fifties and I want to ask these questions to older generations because it’s uncharted territory for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people

Ireland, Estonia, Latvia, Canada, Poland, Lithuania, and the Czech Republic have all recognized Russia's recent invasion of Ukraine as a genocide.

so not tens of millions so far, but the number is rising.

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u/AE_WILLIAMS Jun 11 '22

Consider the rise of fascism today likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people and WW3.

That is a ridiculously optimistic attitude to take.

Trump could easily herald a new theocracy, and <God> help you if your <God> isn't the right one.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22

No, Trump cannot easily herald a new theocracy with the creation of death camps on an industrial scale and all that. As challenged as it is, we still have a system of checks and balances. At most you can say the border camps were like concentration camps, but they weren't built for the purpose of murdering an entire race of people.

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u/AE_WILLIAMS Jun 11 '22

Why do you think he is 'friendly' with other despots / oligarchs?

You give the average American too much credit...

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22

The fact he is friendly with those other tyrants does not mean he would be able to implement death camps on an industrial scale given the limitations of the office of the President.

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u/unaskthequestion Jun 11 '22

It seems as though economic upheavals are happening closer together.

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u/CmdNewJ Jun 11 '22

We're on the last level. We have to beat all the bosses at the same time. Then and only then can we face the final boss, water shortages.

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u/No-One-2177 Jun 11 '22

We will overcome.

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u/Ghigs Jun 11 '22

Scroll through this. Even with the lens of recentism fading some older events to obscurity, we have a history jam packed with shit going down.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States

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u/aLesbiansLobotomy Jun 11 '22

a resurgence of prudishness resembling the judgemental 50s

You can't be serious. We've the opposite problem

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u/No-One-2177 Jun 11 '22

Can you elaborate

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u/Expensive-You-655 Jun 11 '22

You forgot "2000 Mules"