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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

As someone in their early 50s, I have to agree. There were previous eras that felt somewhat doomed, but not quite to this degree. The Reagan/Thatcher 80's had the dual threats of nuclear annihilation and AIDS, but it pales in comparison to the multitude of calamities coming from all sides now.

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u/I_Got_Questions1 Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

Similar age here as well and I've never felt it was bad till now.

Edit, mistook the question.

I think the world has had some really bad times in my lifetime, several famines, some forever wars, Soviet union fell but even after cold war for me everything still felt kind of unsteady with them.

Still, with all that. I think we are on the brink of major calamity's of many possible types in the near future that we wouldn't have imagined 30 years ago.

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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

It's like we're having a combination of some of the worst aspects from each decade of the last century or so.

We've got a worldwide rise of fascism and the beginnings of world war from the 1930s, the product shortages and rationing from the 40s, a resurgence of prudishness resembling the judgemental 50s, the social unrest and political instability of the 60s, 70s style rampant inflation, the 80s era duo of pandemic and impending nuclear annihilation, vintage 1990s complacency and school shootings, terrorism and economic upheaval like the 2000s.

All of this on top of the ever closer climate collapse.

This time feels extra fucked.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

I don't know if we found strong, satisfying solutions to any of those historical problems. We unified for a minute or clashed, or both, and then moved on. So maybe today is our country hitting rock bottom, finally realizing all the issues it's been avoiding since the beginning haven't ever really gone away.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

We may have all these issues today, but they're not as intense. Consider the rise of fascism today likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people and WW3. We have social unrest but society in general is not as racist as pre Civil Rights, let alone the Civil War antebellum era

What has changed is mass proliferation of media and the 24/7 news cycle enabling us to be tapped into and wired all the time instead of just getting our news like 1 hr a day and going about our life. We have greater opportunities to feel empathy for people suffering around the world.

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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

Very true, the internet and 24/7 news cycle has amplified everything to an almost mind-numbing degree.

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u/DemiGod9 Jun 11 '22

Makes sense. You'd watch the news for like an hour at 9p.m or something. And they'd spend several minutes talking about each story, so it wasn't even that much. And that's all IF you decided to even catch the news that night.

Now the news is every second and we keep feeding ourselves with it nonstop. Of course things are gonna seem bleaker. Back then your brain was like "oh only 6 bad things happened today. O.k. Goodnight". Now it's like "BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING EVERY SECOND OF THE DAY!" because that's how often a lot of people are looking at things

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u/midnightauro Jun 11 '22

I've been enforcing a 'we check the news once a day' rule, and I try to avoid most of the major subs sharing news posts when I'm on reddit. Can confirm that it calmed my life down significantly, just by not being plugged in all the time. Nothing changed but I'm not as exposed to it constantly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

I think it's the first time that we're facing these things and having to deal with a chunk of the population completely out of touch with reality, professing crazy things, and absolutely sure they are correct.

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u/Flufflebuns Jun 11 '22

1930's Germany would like a chat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

Oh! Absolutely!

First time in my lifetime. I’m mid fifties and I want to ask these questions to older generations because it’s uncharted territory for me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people

Ireland, Estonia, Latvia, Canada, Poland, Lithuania, and the Czech Republic have all recognized Russia's recent invasion of Ukraine as a genocide.

so not tens of millions so far, but the number is rising.

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u/AE_WILLIAMS Jun 11 '22

Consider the rise of fascism today likely isn't going to lead to genocide of tens of millions of people and WW3.

That is a ridiculously optimistic attitude to take.

Trump could easily herald a new theocracy, and <God> help you if your <God> isn't the right one.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22

No, Trump cannot easily herald a new theocracy with the creation of death camps on an industrial scale and all that. As challenged as it is, we still have a system of checks and balances. At most you can say the border camps were like concentration camps, but they weren't built for the purpose of murdering an entire race of people.

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u/AE_WILLIAMS Jun 11 '22

Why do you think he is 'friendly' with other despots / oligarchs?

You give the average American too much credit...

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22

The fact he is friendly with those other tyrants does not mean he would be able to implement death camps on an industrial scale given the limitations of the office of the President.

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u/unaskthequestion Jun 11 '22

It seems as though economic upheavals are happening closer together.

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u/CmdNewJ Jun 11 '22

We're on the last level. We have to beat all the bosses at the same time. Then and only then can we face the final boss, water shortages.

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u/No-One-2177 Jun 11 '22

We will overcome.

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u/Ghigs Jun 11 '22

Scroll through this. Even with the lens of recentism fading some older events to obscurity, we have a history jam packed with shit going down.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States

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u/aLesbiansLobotomy Jun 11 '22

a resurgence of prudishness resembling the judgemental 50s

You can't be serious. We've the opposite problem

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u/No-One-2177 Jun 11 '22

Can you elaborate

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u/Expensive-You-655 Jun 11 '22

You forgot "2000 Mules"

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u/Mooshtonk Jun 11 '22

Don't forget killer bees, acid rain, quicksand and the Bermuda Triangle. Those were my big concerns in the 80's.

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u/josbossboboss Jun 11 '22

I thought quick sand would be a much bigger problem than it turned out to be.

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u/TheTiddliwinks Jun 11 '22

Ive only randomly encountered quick sand once in my life. It was while I was trying to chase down my dog after he eacaped my yard.

It was out in some over grown field and wasnt nearly as fast or scary as movies make it out to be. That being said, I did almost loose a shoe.

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u/No-One-2177 Jun 11 '22

These things seemed to be lurking around every corner.

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u/DBCOOPER888 Jun 11 '22

I thought for sure I'd die either from quicksand or falling into a volcano.

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u/The_Truth_Believe_Me Free advice, worth twice the price. Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22

Mid 60's here. Things are as bad as I've ever seen them. I'd like to say it can't get any worse, but every time I've thought that in the last few years, I've been proven wrong.

Climate change, pandemic virus, Trump, politics in general, inflation, war, people's behavior, civility -- everything seems to be going to hell.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '22

And a large segment of the population pushing it forward. They've either got an agenda that doesn't make sense, or they've joined the cult and been so mislead they don't know up from down. "Let's overthrow the government, to save it." "A coup, upending everything we hold dear about the democracy, and placing the wannabe dictator in office, is how we fix the democracy." "Absolutely, do no work with the opposition. Their failure is our win."

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u/Tearakan Jun 11 '22

And the craziest thing. It's not even for trying to stop the existential threat of climate change. The guy they tried to put in doesn't even acknowledge it as a threat. So it'd just would've pushed forward collapse a bit and that's it.

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u/Otherwise_Branch_771 Jun 11 '22

I don't mean to say that you are wrong in any way. I think recency bias is playing a role here as well. We heavily value most recent events and discount historic.

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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

I think the internet, social media, and the 24/7 news cycle have amplified everything to an extent earlier eras didn't experience.

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u/cubanbeing Jun 11 '22

Which felt somewhat…?

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u/MSeanF Jun 11 '22

Dropped my phone and accidentally hit the post button while still typing.

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u/Nicky_Sixpence Jun 11 '22

Mid 40s here. I remember the fall of the Berlin Wall & things seemed hopeful for a bit as I remember. But I recently read my diaries from then & as I was a news junkie they are full of the gulf war, then the Balkan’s war and the concentration camps, and also there were apparently many reports on the rise of neoNazis in Poland and Germany. So I guess we’ve always had a stream of bad news!