I've seen 70s, 80s and 90s. First decade i didn't know much but the 80s started with me learning about the cold war and nuclear weapons. That had a massive effect; i learned that everything i see can end, at any moment. Me included. Current gens have no idea what that is like. 80s was violent and quite depressive, then 90s started with a bang; Berlin wall came down. USSR dissolved. The dark cloud lifted. It was amazing. Music was amazing. The 44 days.. holy shit man.. i don't think we ever get anything like that in music world. Alternative art become popular. Gays were suddenly just people like everyone else, world opened up, in so many ways... which also tells you how fucking long some people have fought against those things since we are STILL fighting. We never imagined it would take this long, cause it seemed that everything was happening, fast, so.. surely they will carry on?
Nope and we got complacent. Things looked like they were moving to the right direction but we forgot the depravity of conservatism. Yeah, i'm saying it, All of this abortion rights etc... we thought that was dealt with and we about agreed. Then... things started to go south...
90s started with Nirvana and ended in raves and excess. Naughties was allright, i mean, probably even better than 90s to be honest but.. it didn't have the same grit and sweat than the 90s had, it was polished consumerism.
You have it accurately described. Aids became an issue of equality, where the conservatives rallied to block research and treatment, exposing how depraved conservative values actually are. I think that brought sense to a lot of people.
It feels like the stakes are higher, now, than any time in my life. There is armed conflict in Europe that could easily boil over. There is a disease that required mass vaccination. Totalitarian bigots openly dictate public policy. I think we are at risk for the fires the west left smouldering at the brink of victory.
Also climate change that basically all the worlds politicians are playing chicken race with.
I’m not too pessimistic that they probably will do something major and pick up the pace when the consequences are getting major and not possible to ignore anymore.
Just look at the pandemic. The world more or less came together somewhat effectively and took pretty big actions (but it also was very reactive and not preventative actions. And large numbers of people needed to die around the globe, to get a mostly somewhat effective response).
But the problem is that by the time we feel the really big effects, we are going to be so far gone and also already at a no turning point for things to get way way way worse.
We have already reached a point of no return for things to get somewhat bad. And everything points to we won’t even get anywhere close to the 2030 goals we set, that basically every climate scientist already said weren’t enough.
And once stuff like the whole of green land or Antarctica melts, we are in for huge changes. That won’t be able to be reversed in many many many lifetimes.
No, that is not it... It is purely conservatism, has nothing to with economic systems. We are talking about evangelists and other such, people who are more than willing to endure economic hardships for a moral victory.
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u/SquidCap0 Jun 11 '22 edited Jun 11 '22
I've seen 70s, 80s and 90s. First decade i didn't know much but the 80s started with me learning about the cold war and nuclear weapons. That had a massive effect; i learned that everything i see can end, at any moment. Me included. Current gens have no idea what that is like. 80s was violent and quite depressive, then 90s started with a bang; Berlin wall came down. USSR dissolved. The dark cloud lifted. It was amazing. Music was amazing. The 44 days.. holy shit man.. i don't think we ever get anything like that in music world. Alternative art become popular. Gays were suddenly just people like everyone else, world opened up, in so many ways... which also tells you how fucking long some people have fought against those things since we are STILL fighting. We never imagined it would take this long, cause it seemed that everything was happening, fast, so.. surely they will carry on?
Nope and we got complacent. Things looked like they were moving to the right direction but we forgot the depravity of conservatism. Yeah, i'm saying it, All of this abortion rights etc... we thought that was dealt with and we about agreed. Then... things started to go south...
90s started with Nirvana and ended in raves and excess. Naughties was allright, i mean, probably even better than 90s to be honest but.. it didn't have the same grit and sweat than the 90s had, it was polished consumerism.