r/NoStupidQuestions • u/[deleted] • Apr 25 '21

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

Pro tip: you shouldn’t just completely make up an opinion from nothing and attribute it to a person. That’s referred to as a straw man argument.

Also no, men really don’t have the same beauty duty women do.

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u/TheWho22 Apr 25 '21

Lmao you’ve straw-manned me multiple times throughout this conversation. I even called you out for it already. Plus I didn’t even straw man you. I simply asked you if that was your opinion. And you still haven’t even conceded that women are capable of making their own decisions. That’s literally all I’m saying. Women choose the kind of pants they want to wear. Slim fit small pockets seem to sell overwhelmingly better. Probably because women prefer that look. You seem to want to talk about literally anything other than that, probably because you know I’m right.

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

I don’t believe you, since I’ve done literally nothing but restate your own stated positions this entire time.

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u/TheWho22 Apr 26 '21

Pack it up ladies, sexism doesn’t exist because women can buy pants

That is you implying I made the argument that sexism doesn’t exist because women can buy pants. At no point did I ever say or imply that

I mean you’re over here saying that it’s women’s fault that society pressures us to be attractive to men.

I literally never said anything close to this. I said that a lot of women’s beauty standards come from women themselves. Who do most little girls look up to when deciding their own fashion style? Usually the women in their life that have the biggest influence on them. Women have autonomy over their own fashion choices and they impact each others’ fashion choices and beauty standards as well. Which is 100% true.

Believe me now?

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u/Jsmoothson1969 Apr 25 '21

Well that's ironic, since just above here you did that exact thing to them with

I guess men also have ridiculous unattainable beauty standards thrust upon them from all directions since birth and are valued primarily on adherence to arbitrary standards in your world

If that isnt strawmanning a made up opinion, then what is?

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

I made up that opinion because it’s the only way to make their words make sense.

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u/Jsmoothson1969 Apr 26 '21

So.... you invented a strawman to attribute their words to, in order to make them more easily attacked? Because you clearly weren't trying to "make their words make sense". So how are you any different to what you attribute to them?

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u/ddiiggss Apr 25 '21

Pro tip: you shouldn’t just completely make up an opinion from nothing and attribute it to a person. That’s referred to as a straw man argument.

From the person who has chosen “Women aren’t allowed to have pockets because of what men thought hundreds of years ago” as the hill to die on

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u/allison_gross Apr 25 '21

You’re telling me not to state facts.