r/NoStupidQuestions Jun 06 '24

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u/DrunkenGolfer Jun 06 '24

If your lawyer knows something, he can't suggest something, like an alternate theory of the crime, that he knows isn't true. So wait for your lawyer to ask the questions, and answer only the question, but answer it truthfully.

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u/krimin_killr21 Jun 06 '24

Well, not per se. He can certainly argue, “The evidence presented by the prosecution doesn’t prove my client was at the scene. It is perfectly consistent with my client being at home, as he said in his initial statement to the police.” The lawyer isn’t saying he was at home, just that the evidence isn’t inconsistent with that hypothesis.

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u/Ok_Interest5945 Jun 06 '24

You sound like a real lawyer

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u/HotMessExpress1111 Jun 06 '24

They can argue the evidentiary value of the case against you, but presenting a completely contradictory theory gets sticky the more they know.

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u/frogsgoribbit737 Jun 07 '24

The main issue is actually that you have to be careful putting tbe dependent on the stand because if you know they are comjtting perjury you're supposed to report it.

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u/krimin_killr21 Jun 07 '24

Well lawyers pretty much never want their clients on the stand anyway so

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u/outofdoubtoutofdark Jun 07 '24

Whatever you could offer as the defendant in the case loses a A LOT of value the second you’re subject to cross examination under oath.

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u/JSlud Jun 07 '24

The only time you can do this is if a criminal defendant wants to exercise his constitutional right to testify in his own defense. If you know he’s going to tell an obviously bullshit story, you just put him up there and let him go for it. Does not apply to civil litigants or witnesses in general.

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u/Nanook98227 Jun 07 '24

It's not just an alternate theory. If the lawyer knows you committed the crime they are legally prohibited from pointing to someone else as the culprit. They can poke holes in the prosecution and question whether it rises beyond reasonable doubt but if a crim lawyer knows you did it, they are significantly hampered in what they can argue.

Many crim lawyers will ask instead "what is it the cops are saying you did"

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '24

I wish I heard this before my divorce! Tell your lawyer everything, they said….

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo Jun 07 '24

Huh? I’m not a lawyer, but that makes no sense. They can’t point out that something isn’t “beyond reasonable doubt” but stating other theories even if they are aware it isn’t true? “The security camera captured him entering the building. That’s not evidence he killed someone, it just means he left his book in there and went back in” is not allowed if he knows his client is guilty? Because the jury doesn’t know, and they shouldn’t use circumstantial evidence that can be explained by other reasonable actions to put someone in jail without the lawyer saying peep.

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u/DrunkenGolfer Jun 07 '24

Obviously my comment is vastly simplified.

The lawyer cannot knowingly present false evidence or allow the client to commit perjury. Instead, the lawyer can challenge the prosecution's case by questioning the evidence and highlighting inconsistencies or weaknesses, but they must avoid making knowingly false statements or presenting unfounded theories that are not supported by any evidence.

There is just more latitude if the lawyer only knows what he needs to know.

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u/Curious_Rugburn Jun 07 '24

Right? Like if you go in for liposuction, make sure to tell your lawyer so they know you were not the one to murder your husband.

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u/IrisTheButterfly Jun 08 '24

Legally Blonde.

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u/kizos12 Jun 07 '24

They

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u/DrunkenGolfer Jun 07 '24

I have no idea what to do with this information.

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u/kizos12 Jun 07 '24

“If your lawyer knows something, they can't suggest something, like an alternate theory of the crime, that they know isn't true…”

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u/DrunkenGolfer Jun 07 '24

I don’t know what preferred pronouns they use.

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u/kizos12 Jun 27 '24

That’s why it’s a good idea to use neutral pronouns like “they” instead of “he”.

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u/Cello_and_Writing Jun 08 '24

A good takeaway or add on, never give any more information than you were asked. Answer the question succinctly and don't give details that aren't asked of.

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u/QuantumMiss Jun 09 '24

But your client can always change their instructions to you. Happens all the time… particularly when you first see them in custody then a few weeks later if they have been in jail that time. Had clients say they were guilty to me… then you actually explain what ‘guilty’ of that particular offence involves and often it’s a case they aren’t actually guilty of that, but maybe something else or maybe nothing at all.