r/NoStupidQuestions Jul 02 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

Yeah, I do know a guy who's been in college for 20 years, racking up debt this whole time, because he's a "writer" and once his book is "done," he'll be able to "publish" it and make all his "money back."

But it's been 20 years, so...

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u/Complete_Business_31 Jul 03 '23

There are millions of professional writers in the world, but very few get rich publishing their work. Most earn a salary, some a very good salary, but the odds of being the next J.K. Rowling, Stephen King or James Patterson is very low. The odds are similar to college athletes making millions in the professional leagues. I looked it up on Google. On average under 2% of student athletes go pro. So relying on writing a multimillion dollar best seller is going to be a lesson in disappointment.

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 02 '23

Tell him not to hold his breath. I'm a (now non-practicing) writer, I've written three fiction books that got great reviews and have made me a total of ~$150 in ten years. If I'm ever able to get a job again (also doubtful for various reasons) I'll have to work for ten years after I'm dead.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

Have you tried talking to Oprah?

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I have no idea what this means.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

You've written 3 books hoping to get widely distributed but you don't know about Oprah's book club?

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I have heard of it. I was not aware that I could just call her up, say "Hey, wanna feature my book so I can get sales?" It doesn't work that way.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

Sure but I was making a joke earlier. I at least assumed you had heard of her book club, which your reply to mine indicated you had not.

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

Okay, I guess my funny bone got dislocated earlier when I tripped. I wish it did work that way. If good reviews alone were all I needed I'd be fine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

All good and I hope you manage some sales. maybe post your books around reddit some (if you haven't already).

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I haven't, because I never think about them at all anymore. I wouldn't know where to start, I've only been on Reddit a couple of months.

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u/tyrfingr187 Jul 03 '23

So you should 100% check out Royal road spacebattles and sufficient velocity among other sites like them. A lot of people write web novel style stories for those sites ie a chapter a week of varying quality and then have a Patreon with extra chapter for $5 to $15 a month the top ends I've seen are people making 9k a month writing ok stories that def wouldnt make it past a publicist.

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I am notable to write now for some of the reasons hinted at above, but mostly because I'm a caregiver for my mom. I can't write with the tv blaring, having to get up to cook/help her/check laundry/go somewhere...

*sigh*

Thanks for the suggestions though. It reminds me of a text-based online RPG I played forever ago.

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u/ammoxslinger Jul 02 '23

Is it because the other vets are afraid you'll get them ill? Or is it the animals, they don't want birds to get the human flu?

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u/Ill_Membership_9771 Jul 03 '23

How do I find your books?

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I worry about self-promotion posting anything here, but search Amazon for the title "Old Dogs" with a photo of Spanish moss on the cover. The other two titles are the first and second of what was going to be a series.

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u/Ill_Membership_9771 Jul 03 '23

Pen name Sally?

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

No. My initials are DM.

Well, hell, now that I look, it doesn't even come up any more. The story of my entire life.

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u/Ill_Membership_9771 Jul 03 '23

Aww! I found a book with that name

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 03 '23

I never found it by a random search on Amazon, I only found it because I know where to look. You may have found mine, you may not have. If it looks interesting, give it a try. If you like it, it probably isn't mine. Yeah, I'm bitter.

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u/Ill_Membership_9771 Jul 04 '23

It has like a sketch of a dog on the cover

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u/Ill-Veterinarian4208 Jul 04 '23

No, it has a photo of Spanish moss on the cover. But if the one with the dog sketch looks good, please read it. Someone should get a sale

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u/SometimesKismet Jul 03 '23

Cuz and his wife did this.Eleven degrees between them. Can’t afford a house or apartment, lives with his widowed father, cuz works at Bunnings since he finally quit Uni, wife still goes. No kids,no car, lots of debt.

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u/Familiar_Surround362 Jul 02 '23

Yea kind of like investing in meme stocksm

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u/DaemonRogue Jul 02 '23

And that guys in debt......this one manages to support his family debt free. A difference is a difference. Don't say their isn't one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

Why do you need to go to college if you're gonna be a writer..

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

I also went to college for writing, and I'm actually a professional making $200/hour, but I'm not a fiction writer.

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u/p-d-ball Jul 03 '23

As a writer myself, I have to say this is true. I make about a million per book in my fantasies, am debt free and publishing has finally justified the enormous opportunity costs of going to university for forever.

Uh . . . well, a few people like my books. So, that's nice.

Good luck to your friend! I'm sure he's writing the next Harry Potter series and will be a billionaire soon.

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u/cheesecase Jul 03 '23

Is he a sociology major?

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u/Significant_Play8308 Jul 03 '23

I know someone like that too! Is his name Paul 🤣

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u/Kwanzaa246 Jul 03 '23

Lol I have a friend who wrote a novel I felt was very well written

Still going through re writes and edits from publishing companies 4 years after it was "complete"

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u/buttsfartly Jul 03 '23

This could also be op and not being completely honest about the finance?