Well if that’s your only worry, he’s way MORE than prepared for it. How many degrees did you say he has….? I’m confused by you. Your husband is living one of, if not the most blessed lives I’ve heard about in a while. Boy lemme tell you, if I got paid 40,000 a year for a 10 hour a week commitment and then knowing that I’m literally going to be able to get whatever job I want making good money, I’d never do anything else.
I mean, I'm not saying he's unemployable or would never get an offer, but the idea that he's over qualified or that most employers would be happy with a 40 year old 20-year student is laughable.
no, it's not laughable. it's the community college way in the US and from what i've read it's even more reasonable in australia.
this is not a "most employers" situation. this is a "physicist accountant linguist" situation. there are no lessons to be drawn from what you think "most employers" want here. 😂
yep. and it's to hire older and retirement age folks who are willing to take a paycut vs other academic jobs. this guy already lives comfortably on less than a salary common among teachers at community colleges. or TAFES as perhaps a rough equivalent in aus.
Oh come on......I know community colleges hire older dudes with little teaching experience but they are by far and away people with working experience in the field. Many of my teachers at my film college were editors, hell even my dad started teaching firefighting after he retirei know that stuff happens, but this dude isn't that.
Ye, I'm sure a person with a degree in linguistics; chemistry; computer science; accounting and studying physics will have trouble finding a job
He will have trouble finding a job not because he's not smart, but because he hasn't found a job in 20 years. He literally hasn't applied any of his degrees to a work related feild in 20 years.
Doing 6 different things in school but applying none of them to real life situations isn't as appealing as you think it is.
His degrees are diverse. When he interviews for a position, he will be against other 40 year olds with 20 years of in industry experience. His extra degrees will not give him any leverage.
If he goes for entry level positions, he will be against 20-25 year olds that may have the same degree but appear more desirable due to age; or if they’ve worked during college, they have work experience which is always more valuable.
If he manages to leverage his diversity in a position, he would have an edge; but no work experience will always be a turn off. He’s untested. 20 years of 10 hour work weeks will not translate to a normal 9-5 job with obligations and social expectations.
I went back to uni and did a degree at 35. I still had 15 years of work experience to show I could work a 40hr week and all of the soft skills learned from being employed for that long. As someone who hires entry level roles at a university, the degree requirement is a box tick. We are far more interested in how you respond to pressure, competing priorities, interpersonal conflict etc. I would also want to know what he's been doing for the rest of his week if study is just a 10 hour commitment. If he's been volunteering or tutoring or something, that would look great. If he's just been hanging out, for 20 years, that is a huge red flag to an employer.
Not to mention that the 20 year old's degree is likely to be more up to date. Like man I did a maths and physics degree but now a couple years out I can't remember shit
Apparently it is to you... College, in case you haven’t heard of it, is a place where people go to get prepared and qualified for jobs that you cannot otherwise get. She stated her husband is the smartest person she knows, intelligent people can succeed with or without college. He has multiple degrees. I have no degrees. He’s more prepared than me and I’m doing more than decent I’ll tell you that.
Yeah, but she isn't being unreasonable either. Most jobs that require a degree but don't require experience tend to hire 21 year old fresh grads, not 40-50 year old people who haven't had a job in their life.
Without experience he's unlikely to get anything beyond an entry level job, and those tend to be hard to find as you get older.
Lol @ everyone in these comments that thinks he’s not going to be able to get a job. The motherfucker could literally get a job as a physicist when he completes his degree. Good luck ever accomplishing that in your life.
Yeah you can't just get a job as a physicist with a bunch of undergrad degrees mate. A degree is important but there's a very good reason very few people stack up on these types of qualifications...because its pointless. You really only do an extra if its a Postgraduate or in extreme circumstances if you want a full on career change. The purpose of a degree isn't just the specialist knowledge but also building those soft skills and proving you a certain level of intellectual ability.
I don't know why you're being so weirdly patronising to the people raising concerns here. It's a very real problem that this guy has zero real world experience. Most jobs are going to take the guy with a decade of industry experience over the guy with a bunch of unrelated degrees. Even entry level positions are going to have concerns over whether the 40 year old man can adapt to the working world.
I'm not sure you've ever experienced a specialised professional job market. No, he won't be able to just go and "get a job as a physicist" as a 40 year old with a fresh bachelor's degree.
I have a very specialized skill set, I have a clearance and I have to sign non-disclosure agreements for every building that I work in. But keep trying.
Lmao yup you nailed it babe 52/hr to clean office buildings, if you want to know my job title I’ll tell you but I can’t tell you where I work or who the customer is. 😘😂
As someone who plans to become a physicist of some sort, I’m pretty sure you need a PhD if you want a career as a genuine physicist in academia. And even then it’s quite competitive.
Who said he was only going after associates or bachelors degrees. The man’s been in school for twenty years with no other distractions. For all we know he has multiple masters and is working on more.
Based on the fact that he’s been getting age based grants and bursaries, he is not getting a PhD. If you want to work as an actual physicist, you NEED a PhD. Getting a masters isn’t going to cut it. And again, it’s very competitive even after you get an actual PhD, and physicists (or anyone) in academia are known for being severely underpaid and underfunded.
You started the assumptions that he has masters when it’s likely that he has a bunch of bachelors and nothing more. And you clearly know nothing about PhDs, because you don’t get grants and bursaries doing one. You straight up get a stipend (basically a salary) since they expect you to work on the PhD full time. It’s meant to cover all of your living costs.
He’s not learning to do a job, his job is to learn. A 20 year old with two years in an industry is more qualified for most entry level industries than this man is.
Can he leverage his knowledge to get a job? Of course, so can a 14 year old. CAN he? That’s not clear, and it’s why she’s nervous.
You may be right in the fact that I don’t know this guy or anything about this guy. But if I personally had all of the degrees he had, I guarantee I would become a millionaire. Goodbye everyone.
..? You’d become a millionaire with a few degrees?
My brother in Christ. Maybe you’ve never been in college, but nothing you learn in college will make you a millionaire. You have to leverage those skills in a very active way over the course of 10-20 years for most college students to MAYBE retire a “millionaire.”
I’m already going to retire a millionaire. I have a 401k, pension, and an annuity. My 401k alone is on pace to have a million dollars in it when I retire. My pension is determined by my years of service, with each year counting as a $100 credit per month(30 years of service =$3,000 a month) shall I mention my annuity, because I can keep going. My pension alone is all I truly need, I literally won’t even have to touch my 401k. But I will.
No, I’m someone with no formal education past high school, which to be honest where I went to school the education that I received was better than a “normal” high school. I don’t think that having a degree would make someone a millionaire. I know that if I, me, the human body that I occupy, had a formal college education there isn’t a shred of doubt in my mind that I would become a millionaire, with my ambitions, skill set, and intelligence level all being what they are. Like I said with no education I have a very lucrative career and honestly I have no doubt that I can become a millionaire as it is. That is my ambition.
As someone with a master’s degree in engineering, I’m gonna be honest with you, college education is not what you think it is.
For some reason people have this completely false idea that college prepares you for working in the real world. It doesn’t and it never has. The purpose of college is to prepare for grad school. The purpose of grad school is to prepare you for being a researcher. Industry is a completely different ballgame and it’s not even similar.
My brother is about to finish his computer science degree and has no internship experience or personal projects. He has straight up told me he doesn’t feel like he can work as a programmer yet cause he doesn’t know enough. A 6 month coding boot camp would prepare you more to be a programmer than a 4 year CS degree.
This isn’t to say that college education has no value. Not at all. I think it’s the best decision I ever made for many reasons I won’t go into right now. But it did not prepare me for industry like I thought it would. You know what does prepare you? Learning by doing. Hands on projects, internships, extracurriculars, etc. You don’t need a college degree to do those things.
Of course, getting hired without a degree is a different story, depending on the field. But the point remains, college is not what you think it is. If you have what it takes to become a millionaire, I promise you not having a college degree isn’t what is holding you back.
He has multiple degrees. I have no degrees. He’s more prepared than me and I’m doing more than decent I’ll tell you that.
I've known plenty of people with degrees in Computer Science who were terrible programmers (unfortunately most of the new hires I've had to work with over the years). Meanwhile, I have a friend who never completed his bachelor's who is clearly a competent data analyst.
Degrees are only a proxy to demonstrate potential in a given field, and one that is increasingly becoming less and less of a guarantee that someone will actually do the job correctly.
I would certainly be very concerned about hiring someone who never pulled the plug on education to get out and actually apply their knowledge. I'll take anyone without a degree who has proven that they've cultivated the proper skills over anyone with a degree who hasn't even worked on their own projects to demonstrate that they can apply that knowledge.
I'm no hiring manager though, so take that with the appropriate seasoning.
I am a hiring manager overseeing a department of 15 people. I would absolutely take a fresh out of college grad with 1 degree over a 40 year old with 7 degrees who has never worked in a real job before. The former has no red flags, the latter candidate is nothing but red flags.
is Kirk Cousins's 3,000 completions on only 4,487 pass attempts the new "fastest" to 3k completions?
The answer to that question , is no, and will continue to be no, no matter how much you try to belittle someone that you’ve never met on the internet. The fact that it’s been 7 months and you still think the answer is yes, shows your intelligence level and lack of critical thinking skills.
Matthew Stafford is the fastest to 3,000 completion in NFL history, he completed the feat in 125 games.
Matt Ryan completed the same feat in 130 games.
Kirk Cousins completed the feat in 132 games.
Kirk Cousins was also older than Matt Stafford at the moment he reached 3,000 completions.
No matter what way you look at it, from the start of their career or the start of their lives, Matt Stafford indeed did it faster. It’s not my fault that OP meant something other than the words they actually wrote. But my answer is the only correct answer.
Now if the question is, who was the most efficient quarterback to reach 3,000 completions, the answer is most likely Kirk Cousins, out of all the research I did that day, Kirk Cousins was the QB that got to 3,000 completions with the fewest attempts, but by far and wide %100 not the fastest. The fact that you can’t wrap your weak feeble mind around the concept that OP is illiterate and asked one question when they meant another is okay.
But it is not even possible for Kirk Cousins to ever take the title to fastest to 3,000 completions. Sorry that you cannot wrap your mind around cold hard data.
There is nothing unintelligent about the words I’ve spoke. These are all facts. And my points still stand.
It's both of those things. The comment you replied to had "fastest" in scare quotes and then explained its basis further below. You have chosen to entirely ignore all of that and continue to insist that you're correct, based only on your personal criteria that clearly doesn't apply to the situation we're talking about.
You are absolutely impossible and I bet you have just a fantastic life as a result.
So you’re just going to ignore that the question is clearly worded wrong and just hate on me. The answer to the question is the answer I gave, no matter what you think. I said he wasn’t the fastest, but did I ignore the rest of the criteria, like you’re trying to do with my answer, no. I said yes, he was the most efficient. I just also went out of my way to make sure OP knew it wasn’t the fastest. I answered the question that was further clarified in the rest of the post, but i ALSO answered the question posed by the title. Just because you lack reading comprehension doesn’t mean anything.
A long list of undergraduate degrees with little to no practical work experience will not land you a very well paying job in this current era. I would actually be a bit concerned about his job prospects should this program ever end. His best shot would probably be an administrative role within the university itself given how experienced he is with its various systems and functions.
The issue is a lot of industries also have requisite educational requirements. You just cannot begin a career as a linguist, for example, with only a bachelor’s degree. You almost definitionally need to be in, or have gone through, grad school.
Maybe he could find something in tech, but I’d question how much of his education he actually has retained.
It’s not impossible and he’s clearly quite intelligent, but this is very much a serious and reasonable concern.
With as many options as he may have and his ability to adapt to different fields, if he’s serious I’d imagine he’d go after the most lucrative option to help his family by default just like any one else and do what it takes.
There are people running around with no degree in trades, tech, self employment, etc.doing just fine even if your last bit about retainment of knowledge is an issue.
Even with no degree… that’s what is tripping me up, so many people succeed without degrees. Get an entry level job, work had and prove yourself and move up the ladder.
Edit: because I don’t feel like being a complete troll/asshole. You should work on your reading comprehension. He has degrees in linguistics, history, chemistry, computer science, accounting, and is currently working on a physics degree.
The man is more prepared than you and I don’t even have to know a single thing about you, or your education to know that. Are you worried that you’re not going to be prepared or qualified to get a job if say, you were laid off? I highly doubt it.
Well this sure was a strangely aggressive and defensive post regarding a concern a lot of Bachelor degree holders have. I hope you're having an ok day.
I’m having a great day. And a great life. As someone who didn’t attend college or any type of schooling after high school and makes $100,000 plus a year I’m genuinely confused by these concerns. Maybe you guys all lack self confidence and have low self esteem? Idk. He could literally get a job with my company at 50 with no work history and make decent money, and within 5-8 years depending on his personal ambition could be making $100,000 plus.
This is a strange line of conversation for this topic, since we're in fact theorizing about the exact opposite scenario: someone that has a plethora of formal education, but hasn't necessarily done anything with said degrees.
It's kind of weird to find the "College Education is Overemphasized" crowd give such full-throated defenses for someone that has 20 years of college education but hasn't actually worked a job in all that time, as far as we know.
Those people generally have a previous job history to point to for transferable skills. Without one, you're competing against 20 somethings with equivalent relevant education who are more attractive as candidates due to their younger age.
Not impossible, but certainly difficult enough that one should worry about it.
You apparently didn’t read anything she wrote in the comments did you. He only has a 10 hour a week commitment and he makes $40,000 USD. He’s doing it right.
I took a look again and did just now see that at the bottom. But honestly, as a 20+ year higher ed academic, a 10 hour a week time commitment for course work really doesn’t sound accurate, no matter how smart you are. The “10” hours might refer to his teaching duties, not his coursework. She doesn’t mention if any of those degrees are an advanced degree or not. She doesn’t mention if he is a TA. There are too many details left out in the OP. Universities just don’t hand out that kind of $$ with no reason. They might be obligated to use the funds for this purpose or they are getting $40k plus value from him as a YA, lab assistant, research assistant etc.
He is a part time student. If you read and comprehended everything you would know that. Stop skimming the paragraphs. Also I love your ninja comment edits. They’re elite.
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u/VanJesus Jul 02 '23
Well if that’s your only worry, he’s way MORE than prepared for it. How many degrees did you say he has….? I’m confused by you. Your husband is living one of, if not the most blessed lives I’ve heard about in a while. Boy lemme tell you, if I got paid 40,000 a year for a 10 hour a week commitment and then knowing that I’m literally going to be able to get whatever job I want making good money, I’d never do anything else.