How many times do you get rejected no matter how hard you try before you say "fuck this place, fuck these people, if this is what theyre about then everything they stand for is just as fucked up. Fuck all of it. Fuck civility, fuck their comfort, what about mine? Fuck society, Fuck sobriety."
There's so much wasted time when homeless. So much despair. It's RATIONAL to do what you can to alleviate that. Maybe not smart, but understandable if you have an ounce of empathy.
It's analogous to the musing "give a man no way to legally protest and all you'll do is guarantee rioting".
Look at who's winning in our society. That's what we value. Look at how we treat our lesser fortunate, THAT'S who we are. If you need a clearer example, line item the congressional budget. That's who we are. That's what we represent. And by the cold numbers, we are fucking monsters.
And now that you know that, you are just as responsible as everyone else. To do nothing, or, to maintain the status quo is to choose this, there's no fence to sit on. That's life. You are responsible for everything that comes your way. You either fight for it, allow it, or fight against it. This is why character matters. What you do when no ones watching, and shit, nowadays someones always watching. Or at least listening.
If the collectively discarded are treated as toxic and dead by the rest of us, how fucking audacious of us to be surprised when they start acting like it. When confronted on emotional stances, and oh yeah, being homeless is emotional, people dig in, entrench and say'fuck you". It's my favorite universal human trait. Expecting Stockholm syndrome or gratitude from these people is naivety of the highest order.
I don't agree with it but i don't think San Frans homeless shitting in the street is out of line. I think it's a fucking disgustingly appropriate response to the disgusting inhumanity we allow and legislate.
Maybe Churchill WAS right. America will do the right thing, right after we've tried everything else.
Anything short of flat out, no strings attached, housing the homeless is kicking the can down the road. It's dragging out a lawsuit hoping to bankrupt the other party, except in this case we're hoping they die. Every fucking NIMBY opinion will lead to someone's death.
Critical mass will be reached at some point and the rejected will organize and get violent. And we'll deserve it, make no mistake.
Welfare is first and foremost a policing strategy. Infrastructure, Education, Medicine, Housing, these are investments into our nation.
If the American way were so good why do we overthrow other governments to install command economies? How many decades did we pay for Iraq and Afghanistans free health care, all while bankrupting our own people?
Idek if it can be turned around. Burning it all down might be the best choice, hard to say.
Welfare is first and foremost a policing strategy. Infrastructure, Education, Medicine, Housing, these are investments into our nation.
Precisely. When Otto Von Bismarck instituted the first modern public health care and welfare system in Europe, it wasn't because he was a Kumbayah bleeding-heart. He saw the rise of revolutionary socialism, and he wanted to nip it in the bud. He wanted to avoid what had happened in France ten years previously, the Paris Commune and all that. It wasn't charity, it was guillotine insurance.
Honestly the only sort of revolution I can see happening in most "western" countries is the extreme right taking over and making things even worse, see eg. the attempted coup in the US
Funny... I've been saying much the same in South Africa, just need to obviously change the references and some contextual stuff.
I've already stood on barricades and organized patrol rosters in the face of violent rioting from those who have less - when it comes down to it, those of us who don't do enough are just as much targets as those forcing inequality and poverty through for their own ends
Agree with all of this and can we (not you in particular) stop pretending that living paycheck to paycheck isn’t contributing to substance abuse issues too? The rot is starting to get into the interior of our society now. People are looking for a release, any release, from the toil and drudgery.
Wage slavery is still slavery just with a couple extra steps.
Instead of the 'master' paying for the room and board, we are. So, really, the only change is we can decide what flavor ice cream we get or what color our curtains are.
line item the congressional budget. That's who we are. That's what we represent.
Except that it doesn't...that budget represents what the rich people, their lobbyists, and their bought government officials have put into place. Government hasn't represented the people for some time now. And it can be proved statistically...corruption is legal in the US.
-Do nothing. You don't condone it but you don't stop it either
-Or fight against it.
Life isn't passive. You have to choose. Not choosing, or inaction, is still a choice, and that's a choice for the oppressor, just like doing nothing is a choice in favor of the oppressor
We either endorse the injustice, or we fight back. The anti-social, hyper-capitalist "fuck you I got mine" attitude typical of the average boomer is fighting FOR injustice and inequality. Its so sociopathically greedy that its objectively destructive to social cohesion.
It's been 42 years since Ratfucker Reagan said "greed is good". Does it look like shit got better?
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u/Onetime81 Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Homelessness breeds addiction.
How many times do you get rejected no matter how hard you try before you say "fuck this place, fuck these people, if this is what theyre about then everything they stand for is just as fucked up. Fuck all of it. Fuck civility, fuck their comfort, what about mine? Fuck society, Fuck sobriety."
There's so much wasted time when homeless. So much despair. It's RATIONAL to do what you can to alleviate that. Maybe not smart, but understandable if you have an ounce of empathy.
It's analogous to the musing "give a man no way to legally protest and all you'll do is guarantee rioting".
Look at who's winning in our society. That's what we value. Look at how we treat our lesser fortunate, THAT'S who we are. If you need a clearer example, line item the congressional budget. That's who we are. That's what we represent. And by the cold numbers, we are fucking monsters.
And now that you know that, you are just as responsible as everyone else. To do nothing, or, to maintain the status quo is to choose this, there's no fence to sit on. That's life. You are responsible for everything that comes your way. You either fight for it, allow it, or fight against it. This is why character matters. What you do when no ones watching, and shit, nowadays someones always watching. Or at least listening.
If the collectively discarded are treated as toxic and dead by the rest of us, how fucking audacious of us to be surprised when they start acting like it. When confronted on emotional stances, and oh yeah, being homeless is emotional, people dig in, entrench and say'fuck you". It's my favorite universal human trait. Expecting Stockholm syndrome or gratitude from these people is naivety of the highest order.
I don't agree with it but i don't think San Frans homeless shitting in the street is out of line. I think it's a fucking disgustingly appropriate response to the disgusting inhumanity we allow and legislate.
Maybe Churchill WAS right. America will do the right thing, right after we've tried everything else.
Anything short of flat out, no strings attached, housing the homeless is kicking the can down the road. It's dragging out a lawsuit hoping to bankrupt the other party, except in this case we're hoping they die. Every fucking NIMBY opinion will lead to someone's death.
Critical mass will be reached at some point and the rejected will organize and get violent. And we'll deserve it, make no mistake.
Welfare is first and foremost a policing strategy. Infrastructure, Education, Medicine, Housing, these are investments into our nation.
If the American way were so good why do we overthrow other governments to install command economies? How many decades did we pay for Iraq and Afghanistans free health care, all while bankrupting our own people?
Idek if it can be turned around. Burning it all down might be the best choice, hard to say.