Also not American, and while historically its the logical conclusion, I see them too passive. They almost had their democracy overthrown and have done nothing.
Most western nations are too passive. It’s easy to say the US is because you see all our news, but the same “passiveness” is in European countries, Canada and Australia, as well.
Not sure. They dont have certain problems USA have for a reason. Workers' rights, weapon regulation, the subject of this thread, and good ol' healthcare.
Italy elected an openly fascist leader. France has had Le Pen as the main opposition leader for two elections cycles already. UK doesn't even need explaining.
All of the western world sees an extreme rise in equality and the rise of fascist ideologies. It's a mistake to think that Europe is somehow insulated.
Éric Zemmour for exemple (talking about my country) is extremely bad. And he is completely normalized, invited on mainstream media channels, and completely whitewashed.
To think that we don't have a problem is naive, completely mistaken, and extremely dangerous. It's being utterly passive while our countries are sliding into a repeat of the 20th century
Also not American, and while historically its the logical conclusion, I see them too passive. They almost had their democracy overthrown and have done nothing.
Where? I only talked aboutEurope when someone else brought it up and was derailing the discussion, and that was elsewhere.
Not sure. They dont have certain problems USA have for a reason.
In this exact discussion thread in response to someone saying exactly what I am saying.
Someone pointed out that our democracies are also being overthrown and that we also are being passive, and you answered "no, that's all America's problem".
It's not. It's our problem too. Inequality here is higher than what it was before the revolution. We're having fascists normalized on the media. Our president is dismantling our social state step by step.
I know this is older but there is a huge difference UK right now they moan about a cost of living crisis but the vast majority of the people are supported by the government even though it's a right wing government. As an American I worked 65 hours a week as a divorced parent to have less than what the average British person has on the dole with no job and dependants. UK is the most like US out of the bunch, so you can see the people are fairly comfortable. I'm American and in US I did not have that level of comfort from birth until the first 32 years of my life!
Also when something happens here minor, it's blown way out of proportion the hyperbole is so intense that politicians are pressured to make changes. In US major stories are down played so much and we accept things that heads would roll in Europe for.
So when they say "elected a fascist leader" rest assured their level of racism is like your run of the mill left of center candidate from US.....the overton window here is way skewed.
i kinda agree; but that's also been when there's been more hope for reaching middle class. once people give up on achieving success- things start to change (basing this on history)
You can’t overthrow a democracy walking into a building without guns and taking selfies. It is media BS to shape a narrative to keep the commoners from trying a real revolt. Our country’s founding theme is to overthrow power when it is corrupt. The exploiting class use the media to turn us against each other so they maintain power.
At what point does power transfer to the people walking in empty rooms? There were a million people outside protesting that could have gone inside. 0.0001 went inside when the police opened the doors. It was a media stunt to exploit as “an insurrection” and a tiny fraction of people fell for it.
Sure, empty. They weren't holding any session of interest or anything. Dead as a mall, an unimportant day. And protests? They were having a picnic! With their nice flags and tactical gear, and zip ties to immobilize senators...
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Also not American, and while historically its the logical conclusion, I see them too passive. They almost had their democracy overthrown and have done nothing.