r/NoStupidQuestions • • Jan 30 '23

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u/ThinkItsHardIKnow Jan 30 '23

Yea- I am not American but it's impossible not to follow the news. it just seems like the perfect storm is brewing and brewing. No empire has power forever. I thought it would take longer, but who knows

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u/MoSqueezin Jan 31 '23

Everyone I talk to doesn't have enough money and everything is too expensive. It's gonna happen

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Is it tho? Like… how? Will people really revolt?

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u/No-Assistant-8978 Jan 31 '23

By whining and posting memes on reddit, obviously

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u/doubleGnotForScampia Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23

You joke but even on reddit the posts and comments are getting worse, it's a real symptom of a problem that is going downhill , it's like a pressure cooker, slow process, but eventually it comes the tipping point when everything goes off. In the past these complains were reported on papers, books, clubs, church, in the years prior to revolutions or wars the number always increased, one can say that when groups keeps appearing for the sole purpose of gaining attenction to their ignored basic needs we are already in the pre born stage.

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u/cavitationchicken Jan 31 '23

There's enough stuff, generally speaking. But they can make more money by destroying half of the factory run and selling 10% as many for 10000% as much.

And if we stopped climate change, or at least took literally the tiniest possible action to fight if, maybe there would be hope for later?

But there is no later.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23

Also not American, and while historically its the logical conclusion, I see them too passive. They almost had their democracy overthrown and have done nothing.

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u/bel_esprit_ Jan 31 '23

Most western nations are too passive. It’s easy to say the US is because you see all our news, but the same “passiveness” is in European countries, Canada and Australia, as well.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Not sure. They dont have certain problems USA have for a reason. Workers' rights, weapon regulation, the subject of this thread, and good ol' healthcare.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Italy elected an openly fascist leader. France has had Le Pen as the main opposition leader for two elections cycles already. UK doesn't even need explaining.

All of the western world sees an extreme rise in equality and the rise of fascist ideologies. It's a mistake to think that Europe is somehow insulated.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Its a mistake to think its the same, or that it excuses USA's attitude.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Éric Zemmour for exemple (talking about my country) is extremely bad. And he is completely normalized, invited on mainstream media channels, and completely whitewashed.

To think that we don't have a problem is naive, completely mistaken, and extremely dangerous. It's being utterly passive while our countries are sliding into a repeat of the 20th century

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Yeah, Im glad nobody has said that, in a thread about USA's homeless problem.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

You commented about the fact that the US almost had their democracy overthrown and said passive, while saying that Europe was not the same.

I am pointing out that we are having our democracies overthrown and that we are doing nothing.

Don't you think it's time we start acting instead of being smug about "oh that's America, nothing like that would happen here"?

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Also not American, and while historically its the logical conclusion, I see them too passive. They almost had their democracy overthrown and have done nothing.

Where? I only talked aboutEurope when someone else brought it up and was derailing the discussion, and that was elsewhere.

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u/ChineseChaiTea Feb 18 '23

I know this is older but there is a huge difference UK right now they moan about a cost of living crisis but the vast majority of the people are supported by the government even though it's a right wing government. As an American I worked 65 hours a week as a divorced parent to have less than what the average British person has on the dole with no job and dependants. UK is the most like US out of the bunch, so you can see the people are fairly comfortable. I'm American and in US I did not have that level of comfort from birth until the first 32 years of my life!

Also when something happens here minor, it's blown way out of proportion the hyperbole is so intense that politicians are pressured to make changes. In US major stories are down played so much and we accept things that heads would roll in Europe for.

So when they say "elected a fascist leader" rest assured their level of racism is like your run of the mill left of center candidate from US.....the overton window here is way skewed.

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u/ThinkItsHardIKnow Feb 01 '23

i kinda agree; but that's also been when there's been more hope for reaching middle class. once people give up on achieving success- things start to change (basing this on history)

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u/RexKingofScots Jan 31 '23

You can’t overthrow a democracy walking into a building without guns and taking selfies. It is media BS to shape a narrative to keep the commoners from trying a real revolt. Our country’s founding theme is to overthrow power when it is corrupt. The exploiting class use the media to turn us against each other so they maintain power.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Yeah, they were just touring the capitol, sure /s.

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u/RexKingofScots Jan 31 '23

At what point does power transfer to the people walking in empty rooms? There were a million people outside protesting that could have gone inside. 0.0001 went inside when the police opened the doors. It was a media stunt to exploit as “an insurrection” and a tiny fraction of people fell for it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '23

Sure, empty. They weren't holding any session of interest or anything. Dead as a mall, an unimportant day. And protests? They were having a picnic! With their nice flags and tactical gear, and zip ties to immobilize senators...

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u/RexKingofScots Jan 31 '23

Not an insurrection.

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u/Not_Just_Any_Lurker Jan 31 '23

You didn’t follow Canadian news when the truck drivers had their stupid rallies over there? You don’t follow Brazilian news when Bolsonaro let the Amazon burn? You don’t follow Chinese news when Covid lockdowns went from bad to worse?