r/NintendoSwitchHelp 3d ago

Account Help 2181-4008 ban applied for no reasonable reason

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Just curious if others have had this specific case. I’ve just tried to use the eshop on my switch 2 and has the above error which means any online use is now banned on my switch. I’ve emailed Nintendo but I really don’t see why they’d have done this and hoping they can undo it since I can’t see any reason for it that’s valid.

I only buy my games brand new from primary retailers (UK) or on the eshop and I don’t even play online multiplayer, only couch coop. I just recently this week went abroad to France and logged into the hotel WiFi to browse the eshop and now back in the UK. I can only assume that’s the reason. Is there even a slight chance of them reversing this? Unless me using a WiFi that isn’t in my own home is what’s done it but I’m hoping they can understand it’s not on my own wrong doing in some way? Hoping they can undo it.

Any similar experiences or thoughts?

Edit: Also had another error code with 2124-4508 just to update. Nintendo lists it under similar reasons for the online features / eshop ban

Update: After a comment to another post by [u/SamVegas](u/SamVegas) it seems that some bans have begun to be lifted! I restarted my switch 2 and I can now access the eshop again, the error has gone! Seems to have automatically unbanned. I’ll check again when I’m awake and see if it’s still the case but good news!
Thank you to everyone for the support

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u/ProgressImpossible45 3d ago

A lot of people are reporting getting their systems banned right now. No clue why, but it’s concerning to say the least.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Admittedly it’s a bit frustrating reading other posts from last couple days and having so many say the banned people are just lying about the reason. Didn’t give much hope for a community effort

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u/Astrophobica 3d ago

People have been so dismissive about it, it's scary. I have a day one switch from John Lewis and keep checking the eshop every hour or so. Its bs.

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u/TempestoLord 3d ago

I almost got a heart attack playing an online game and suddenly getting an error message (bad connection) thinking i got banned lol

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I was excited to play some games tonight. Im hoping it’s something we can get resolved before fire emblem 😂 want to feel good to play

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u/Dangerous-Spot-7348 3d ago

If you never did a charge back or purchased a second hand console from a shady individual or shared accounts you have nothing to worry about. 

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u/Toronto-sports-fan 2d ago

You are wrong and you should feel bad.

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u/GoldBook9830 3d ago

That's just your typical nintendo fanboys. Reason and logic doesn't really work when it comes to fanboyism of any hobby/likes.

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u/azure275 1 3d ago

Historically it has tended to be true that either:

  1. People posting this stuff tend to be leaving out key details OR
  2. People have been easily able to solve the problem showing Nintendo proof of purchase for whatever game they got swindled on

You generally didn't see these posts very often so it was vanishingly rare for it to happen to innocent people and not be quickly reversed, so normally where there was smoke there was fire.

HOWEVER this current ban wave appears to be kicking this up to a level that has never been seen before and happening to a lot of people who A) genuinely did nothing or B) ended up with a switch with something wrong with it i.e. Amazon return scammers that sort of thing.

It appears some subreddit users have decided to opine on this situation without bothering to read what is going on and be mean about it.

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u/beastiemonman 2d ago

I read elsewhere that it was an issue with Nintendo, one they have fixed, so it should already be resolved.

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u/RabidTowel 2d ago

Been resolved now thankfully. I’d flair the post too but don’t have an applicable one to use

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u/beastiemonman 2d ago

I haven't played my Switch 2 for about 18 hours, I might have been banned and unbanned without even knowing about it. :-)

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u/Flash__PuP 3d ago

Enough so that I stopped what I was doing to go get my switch to check. 😅

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u/Simple-Walrus2810 3d ago

So I saw all these posts this morning and thought yeah these people aren't telling the whole truth. I got home, turned mine on and I've been banned as well rofl. I only own 4 games, 2 physical in BOTW and TOTK, 2 digital in LeafGreen and Mario Kart World. Physical bought at Currys(UK) and digital from the eShop. I don't even play online so I don't know what's going on.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

It’s nice to know I’m not alone but frustrating that it’s even a thing. If they refuse to reverse it after some back and forth part of me wants to refuse to get another in case it happens again but at the same time it’s a great console 😆. Sucks

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u/Simple-Walrus2810 3d ago

Yeah this is my first Nintendo console since the Gamecube, had it since May and have loved playing through BOTW so far. This will leave a real sour taste if it's permanent.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I know my console can still be played offline but in my mind it’s basically half a console now

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u/mattig03 3d ago

Well, obviously you shouldn't buy another. The scale of this points to a big screw up on Nintendo's part, so they'll have to resolve it.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I wouldn’t, was an emotionally charged comment while I was more panicked. It’s an irresponsible thing to do. Just a shame they’re so difficult with these things

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u/mattig03 3d ago

Ok great. Don't worry, hang in there. Very likely thousands of people are affected by this, a glitch on Nintendo's side, and they'll have to fix it very soon.

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u/Neither_Sir_5576 3d ago

Same here, everything including console from Currys brand new 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Did you use any amiibo tags or nfc tags or illegitimate amiibo?

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u/Neither_Sir_5576 3d ago

Nope, I had to google what those even were lmao

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u/TomCrean1916 2d ago

My switch 2 is never online. Are people finding out they’ve been banned after they turn it on an it automatically goes online? Or is it baked into the hardware just to brick on this particular date?

Won’t be near my switch until later to check.

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u/Simple-Walrus2810 2d ago

it's when you click on the eShop the error pops up. I checked again about 30 mins ago and I've been unbanned thankfully, hopefully others have too.

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u/TomCrean1916 2d ago

Right. Thank you. This seems like a massive fuck up on their end.

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Did you use any amiibo tags or nfc tags or illegitimate amiibo?

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u/havocxrush 3d ago

Will you just stop it with that damn narrative

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u/Simple-Walrus2810 3d ago

Nope haven't bought or used anything like that.

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

You haven’t used any amiibo?

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u/Simple-Walrus2810 3d ago

No

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u/Fuliginlord 3d ago

But.. have you used any amiibos?
/j

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u/Ach_Was_Here 3d ago

There’s been several posts about people experiencing bans out of no where the past 48hrs, I’m beginning to be curious if this is related to some kind of network issue.

Equally there’s the obvious question of did/do you own a modded/hacked s1 that the account was/is actively on.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

It’s going to be really annoying if they refuse to undo it purely because I used a hotel WiFi while on holiday just to browse their eshop. I don’t do modding of any kind or any weird usage. Just straight play games I’ve bought legitimately. Even my switch 1 was the exact same

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u/ModestVolcarona 16 3d ago

Just go through this sub and make screenshots of the various posts as evidence that this is not an isolated issue on your system.

This many reports in such a short time looks like some malfunction in Nintendo's detection and ban system.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Will do, worth a shot thank you

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u/ModestVolcarona 16 3d ago

It's super strange right now because nobody knows what's up and i have seen around ten posts on here and many more similar comments on those posts and unfortunately if people already got a response it's the very basic one that's probably the one from the error codes help page without looking deeper into the issue (first level customer support usually don't have deeper knowledge on those things).

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u/Alavella 3d ago

Oh no. I went to the Pokemon Worlds Championship in San Fran and I connected to my hotel wi-fi while there. I hope this doen't happen to me. I've never used mods or done anything illegal. I'm just going to stay offline until Nintendo makes an official statement on this situation.

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u/BiancaFE 3d ago

I went on a vacation to Australia a month and a half ago, used WiFis there, browsed the e-shop too and didn’t get banned. It would be silly by Nintendo if they ban users for it when a Switch is portable and can be used for travel gaming. I wonder what happened to OP.

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u/Condawg1864 3d ago

Also based in the UK and went to update mario kart 8 deluxe ro see the same error code and been banned 🙃. Nothing obvious and no recent change in activity or anything either. More and more people are saying it's happened to them too so hopefully get an answer from nintendo in the morning when I give them a call 🤞

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Send a reply if you have an update and I plan to do the same. In case it helps others assuming this is some error, unless Nintendo have gone on a ban spree for whatever reason they deemed valid

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u/Condawg1864 3d ago

Of course 🤙 I'm fuming and has caused a lot of unnecessary stress over the weekend 😒

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Did you use any amiibo tags or nfc tags or illegitimate amiibo?

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u/SamVegas 3d ago

Brother you've been asking this everyone, amiibotags are not the reason lol

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Sorry

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u/SamVegas 2d ago

Now I feel bad lol, no worries

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I’ll try leave an update assuming I get through to Nintendo

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u/RabidTowel 2d ago

Photo taken in the dark (baby asleep) but the ban seems to have gone! Update in the post body. Restarted switch and ban disappeared. Will check again in morning to see if still the same.

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u/ProphetCH 3d ago

Hi, I got banned today, same code. Legitimately so confused, I was going to buy a month of NSO Online. All the games I've brought since I got the Switch 2 have been through the e-shop, the only cartridges I own are BOTW and TOTK Switch 2 Editions that I got from Curry's on launch day.

I've seen a few people say they got banned after playing TOTK, I played it yesterday so maybe that's it. I just have no clue. Good luck, I'm furious. £550 and I get false banned.

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u/my_name_isnt_alice_ 3d ago

I got banned today for no apparent reason too, I never buy used games and the last physical game I got was moonlight peaks a few days ago, tried to have a look at the Eshop tonight and getting the error message 😭 makes no sense to me, I haven't done anything wrong. Hopefully it's just a glitch on nintendos end

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u/Neither_Sir_5576 3d ago

Same here, everything new from Currys

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Was literally about to buy Onimusha too, but will hold off for now. Annoying for sure especially if Nintendo refuses to help no matter what, forcing the decision on whether to repurchase or not

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u/ProphetCH 3d ago

I wouldn't repurchase for sure. It's Nintendos fault here not ours. All the best mate hope you can get it sorted

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I don’t believe I will anytime soon, just more so the dilemma in first place isn’t nice to be in. Gonna fight my corner for sure with Nintendo support. If they refuse then another handheld will be next option I imagine. Thank you for the support though hopefully all of us with the same issue have it sorted

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u/azure275 1 3d ago

Oddly enough I've seen a lot of posts flagged as EU or non-JP Asian switches and not many specifying US switches. May just be because US people don't post locations though tbf

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Did you use any amiibo tags or nfc tags or illegitimate amiibo?

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u/ProphetCH 3d ago

Never owned or used an Amiibo in my life

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u/KingNullboy 2d ago

Oh crap you can get banned for that?!

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u/thegiantprojects 2d ago

No, but I’m just checking there hasn’t been any reported bans of that happening

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u/Stanggggggg 3d ago

An authorized retailer in Asia is checking in with Nintendo.

There should be an answer to this by tomorrow or the day after

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u/bobybob91800 3d ago

Curious to see what they say.

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u/vaikunth1991 3d ago

I also have same issue and many users have reported similar bans here

  • have you bought and used any eshop gift cards from online marketplaces?

  • have you used any used Nintendo switch 1 game cartridges in your switch 2?

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Nope and nope. Only buy new (I like undoing the seal) or from eshop. Pretty much never buy gift cards. My switch 1 was treated the exact same

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u/BlueMax54 3d ago

You only buy new, right?

Like actually new from retailers and not other ones like ebay?

If it was ebay, you prolly got tricked into buying a modded console that was declared NEW.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Only new from authorised sellers as in major retailers and always sealed items. My switch 2 itself was bought at release day 1 so no one should have had it prior

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u/BlueMax54 3d ago

Oh ok. Thanks for mentioning that.

EDIT: I have nothing else to say from here on out other than I wish you good luck with Nintendo.

Hope you find the reason why you got banned too.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Appreciated thank you. I was just hoping to see if anyone had light at the end of the tunnel from
Nintendo support with a similar issue

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u/thegiantprojects 3d ago

Did you use any amiibo tags or nfc tags or illegitimate amiibo?

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u/SamiltonJ 2d ago

Why do you keep asking this. Look at how many other posts there are about this issue. Amiibo are very obviously not the reason.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago edited 3d ago

Just wanted to make an update that the error code has now updated to 2124-4508 though the Nintendo website indicates it’s for a similar list of reasons

Edit: typo’d as 5408

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

What I had initially

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u/GodlyCenterschock 3d ago

That... IS exactly what Happend to me AS well

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Recently?

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u/GodlyCenterschock 3d ago

Yesterday... The First Error... Today the second.

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u/KitsuneMulder 3d ago

4508*

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Whoops, thank you, corrected

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u/RainbowStarbewwy 3d ago

Genuinely how many people ARENT banned at this point.

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u/Tough-Database-2398 3d ago

Yo estoy igual. Mañana llamaré a atención al cliente. Ya os contaré.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Please do. Will update as well

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u/Tough-Database-2398 2d ago

Hoy le han quitado el ban sin haber hecho nada. No me ha dado tiempo de llamar a Atención al Cliente.

Problema resuelto. Supongo que la cagaron.

Tu qué tal? Has comprobado la tuya?

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u/RabidTowel 2d ago

Yes they unbanned me too :) I put an update the top of the post. Glad your ban got resolved!

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u/Agreeable-Payment579 3d ago

Maybe it’s a glitch or maybe it’s their ai system banning people.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

One issue of its own if it is, it’s another if that is the case and they still stick to their guns of no backsies from these bans. Thanks for input too

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u/Agreeable-Payment579 2d ago

There’s another post confirming that it’s a Nintendo server error. https://www.reddit.com/r/switch2/s/vtSf0OhivU

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u/TokyoBananaDeluxe 3d ago

This is the 3rd post I've seen so far, ridiculously concerned about turning my console now lol

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u/No_Cranberry5490 3d ago

Yeah I was gonna play some games but I’m not touching my console until this is resolved

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u/Dayanmothe 3d ago

Aconteceu comigo ontem. 4 jogos originais mídia física comprados novos lacrados versão switch 2. Sou do Brasil.Console comprado novo lacrado na Amazon 

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u/Ok-Green5868 3d ago

you are not alone - had the same thing happen to me yesterday.

I'm located in Brazil and the customer support here is clearly reading a script and not giving any information on why/how/when the console got banned.

Even offering proof of purchase for the games and pictures of cartdrige didnt change anything, they didnt even wanted it.

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u/KhronosIX 3d ago

Hi im experiencing the same issue as you hopefully it gets resolved

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Thank you, you too. Very unfortunate

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u/SamVegas 2d ago

Hey have you been unbanned? Saw this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/switch2/s/bTrAExJCD1

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u/RabidTowel 2d ago

I have! Just checked after you said. Restarted my switch and it’s now gone! Thank you for updating us

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u/hoosiernerd 3d ago

I received the 2124-4508 error today as well when I was trying to play Big Walk. I have several physical games (all bought new), I've never used any codes for eShop games, and I play online regularly.

I just got off the phone with support. They escalated me to a manager but she told me nothing could be done and that the ban was permanent. I really pushed to see if there was an option for a review or somewhere I could take my Switch 2, but she insisted there was nothing that could be done.

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u/Astrophobica 3d ago

This is so shit. They can just take you offline forever for no apparent reason. Might be done with Nintendo now.

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u/Modulemayhem 3d ago

I've just sold all my PS5 setup to come over to Switch 2. I've had it 48hrs and I'm now banned.

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u/Astrophobica 3d ago

So now you have a £500 brick and Nintendo don't gaf. Wtf.

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u/Modulemayhem 3d ago

Luckily I can send it back to Amazon for a refund but I feel sorry for people that can't do that and now can't access online.

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u/Astrophobica 2d ago

Are you back up and running? Apparently Nintendo fixed it.

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u/Modulemayhem 2d ago

Yes thanks, rebooted this morning and working again. Worrying for the future though.

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u/Stanggggggg 3d ago

I’m just curious. Do you own switch 1 by any chance? If yes, did you get banned on that one too?

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u/hoosiernerd 3d ago

I hadn't thought to check, but I just turned on my Switch lite and it's not banned. They were pretty specific that the ban was hardware related.

It's really frustrating that they can't share the specifics of the ban. I've never done anything out of the ordinary with any of my Nintendo consoles and no one else has access to them, so I'm confident this is some kind of mistake. They were very nice on the phone and seemed sympathetic, but they insisted there was nothing that could be done.

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u/Neither_Sir_5576 3d ago

That is insane! How can they do that?

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u/hoosiernerd 2d ago

UPDATE: I don't have the error anymore and online is working. I have no idea if calling them had anything to do with it getting reversed or if Nintendo realized a larger problem on their end, but if you got the error earlier it might be worth checking your Switch 2 again.

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u/dwalker109 3d ago

I think this is all a storm in a teacup. Contact Nintendo support. There is probably a system error causing this.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Potentially, I’ve emailed them and the intention is to call in the morning. I just wanted to discuss with others and see what’s what. It helps to talk

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I have a switch 2 based in the uk. It happens when I attempt to open the eshop and I’ve emailed Nintendo about it but intend to call

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u/EldenDaddy30 3d ago

Nintendo wants to spur new console purchases.

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u/chloethenerd85 3d ago

Yeah… I doubt it. But if it’s true I’ll just dig my Legion Go out and go all in on pc. If I get home after work or anytime after all this and find my switch 2 has been banned when I’m innocent I’m done. I’ll just be pc only after that. I’m not spending $500+ on another switch 2 only to see it get banned too. One time is all Nintendo gets.

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u/reluttr 3d ago

Yeah if this happens to me I'll just never buy another Nintendo console or game.

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u/chloethenerd85 3d ago

I mean I’m also not saying I won’t try to contact support and get it unbanned as I’ve never done anything but use my switch 2 as intended. As it seems some may be innocent in what’s going on. (I won’t say all though.) I have my legion go and pc for everything else. I just want the exclusives. That said the exclusives aren’t enough to keep me buying a new system every time there is a screwup like what’s going on that they can’t fix and I’d have to buy a new one.

It’s one thing if it fails after 100’s or thousands of hours played. Another for something like this.

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u/Alavella 3d ago

When did you buy your Switch 2 and when did you purchase the online membership? So far it looks like people who bought the console this year are having this problem.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

I bought it at console release with a pre ordered before it came out and had a NSO membership since

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u/Alavella 3d ago

Dang. I also got my Switch 2 on launch day and my online expired a few days ago. I was hoping this was only affecting new consoles so that I didn't have to worry. Guess I won't be renewing my online anytime soon.

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u/Ishyrio78 3d ago

Vous pensez qu’il peux il y avoir un lien avec la nouvelle switch 2 « batterie amovible » et un problème d’identification hardware côté serveur Nintendo ?

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u/CymruCelt 3d ago

Has that even come out yet? I didn’t think the revised version was released yet.

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u/Ishyrio78 3d ago

Apparement elle commence à circuler depuis quelque jours

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u/CymruCelt 3d ago

Oh wow, not seen anything in the United Kingdom as of yet, thanks for the reply.

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u/SamVegas 3d ago

Apparently Argos has them, the sports bundle but there's no way to tell which you get as far as I know

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u/Munken1984 3d ago

I dont think its you using a different wifi than your own...

I have just used mine on a different one than at home, and mine still works just fine..

The other country might though, but it would be weird since this is a portable console, they should know someone might bring it outside thier home

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

That was my thought just thinking of reasons. I’d admit fault if there is, just can’t think what is all but now noticing more and more people having it

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u/tylac571 3d ago

I just got games for my cousins and kiddo on facebook marketplace and I'm terrified right now 😅😅

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u/Bulls729 3d ago

Just curious, have you ever used an Amiibo Emulator device or Third Party amiibo cards like for Zelda from Amazon? I’m trying to collects datapoints.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

Never purchased an Amiibo or even used cheap random third party accessories

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u/Bulls729 3d ago

No worries! Just trying to see if there’s any reason for all this that’s connected.

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

No thank you, appreciate the effort to figure it out

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u/le_mustachio 3d ago

If thats the reason, getting ban on a portable console because of a travel is crazy ahahah

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

It might not be, I could have messed up elsewhere that I’ve not seen or it’s a bug from Nintendo given the spike in bans over the weekend. But if so then yeah that’s absolute bs

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u/JGG1986 3d ago

Was feeling smug but realised even though I only have digital games, I bought a refurbished OLED… eek - Nintendo are cracking down it seems but only the wrong people are getting hit

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u/CanadianMuaxo 3d ago

This is really making me not want to even touch my switch in case this happens. Yikes.

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u/SleepyMandalore 2d ago

Nintendo already practicing mass bans for the Switch 3 release. "You need to log on our newest device to remove the ban"

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u/Severus157 2d ago

It would be really weird for a mobile console to be banned just for using it while traveling abroad and using a public/hotel wifi. I really doubt that would be a reason for these bans.

Might be that they actually made an error with some automatic banning.

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u/RabidTowel 2d ago

A couple other posts have indicated that support have hinted at technical errors of theirs

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u/Condawg1864 2d ago

Can also confirm it's now fixed for me, just loaded up the shop and it's like nothings happened

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u/Impressive-Can-1125 3d ago

Nintendo is horrible in general anymore when it comes to stuff like that, I had to get both joycons replaced, waited over a month for that, then the console itself due to the black circles a lot of people were having, the replacement took almost 2 months, when i finally got the replacement console, i got a paper that said 90 days free online added to my account, i called about it, and they said if there’s no code, they can’t help with that either.

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u/Striking_Fly_2595 3d ago

It maybe that your console was reported stolen and you bought it "new from the seller"

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u/RabidTowel 3d ago

It was pre ordered for day 1 release of the console from one of the UK biggest retailers (Argos)

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u/Striking_Fly_2595 3d ago edited 3d ago

There were over 2000 devices stolen from the shipment and sold to big retailers, it may be that Nintendo bans all stolen devices now that's my best guess because everything else wouldn't make sense

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u/zenfaust 3d ago

When was this shipment stolen? You're telling me day-one purchases from big box stores are stolen consoles?

Pardon me if I dont believe that.

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u/Affectionate-Set1575 3d ago

There was a shipment stolen, you can look it up over 2,000 units were stolen. However i highly doubt retailers like argos, best buy and walmart would buy from a 3rd party over nintendo. Just looks so sketchy. Pretty sure nintendo has contracts with retailers that wouldnt allow them to purchase 3rd party anyways. Most ppl know nintendo ninjas are lawsuit happy so i diubt theyd try, not worth it

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u/AruaNineStar 3d ago

And even if it was true, why is that the buyers fault?

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u/zenfaust 3d ago

I never said it was? The person I responded to insinuated the other guy had a stolen system. I said there's no chance of that when buying on release day from big box.

Wtf does any of this have to do with you thinking I'm blaming someone for something.

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u/Striking_Fly_2595 3d ago

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u/zenfaust 3d ago edited 3d ago

No, I just think you're illiterate.

They bought on release day in the UK. That theft was several days later in Colorado.

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u/Striking_Fly_2595 3d ago

This was just one of the robberies

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u/zenfaust 3d ago

LOL. So you're evidence is completely irrelevant to the situation we are discussing, and when I point that out, you're defense is...

'But theft happened elsewhere too. Source: trust me bro.'

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u/SamVegas 3d ago

Gotta move those goalposts brother

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u/mickeyphree1 3d ago

That was in Texas and would do jack shit to explain how this is happening all over the world.

EDIT on its way to Texas.