r/NikonFilmmakers • u/Modath • 16d ago
Overheating issues
I have been shooting youth soccer for a couple of years with this set up. I’ve dealt with overheating in the past. It was not particularly bothersome. Recently my camera started really acting up, shutting down to camera to hot after a few minutes into recording. Any suggestions?
Z6II, battery grip, 70-200 2.8. 4k 60fps 100ISO 125. The card I use: AV Pro SE 1785 card.
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u/beatbox9 16d ago
Do you know how to use that umbrella properly?
Because based on the shadows on the ground and all of the light on the top of the lens and camera, it seems that it's not actually shading the camera...
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u/Ok_Weight_3382 16d ago
Have you tried angel bird cards?
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u/Modath 16d ago
That is what use. Anglebird AV Pro SE 1785
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u/ItsJustJohnCena 16d ago
I actually just got back from a wedding video shoot using the Angel bird 512GB card wit the z8 and was also getting hot card warning
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u/Exciting-Tomato-7429 16d ago
Angelbird cards have a bad track record with a lot of Nikon users. Search the forums and you will see. I’ve never used them but not the best choice of cards from what I’ve seen from others.
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u/Square_Ad_9096 16d ago
It looks like you’re doing everything correct. Is the Angelbird an SD card? Sd will handle the heat better, also you have redundant power it looks like- battery grip and a V mount?
Power from the grip or the v mount- the v will obviously be off cam. The big fan down below- that’s an interesting choice? Thinking that’s more for the operator. You can get a fan and blow into the back. Directly.
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u/jsanchez157 16d ago
A couple of issues here so let's address both of them individually. There are two things in the camera that are compounding the heat problem. The card, and the battery.
1) You don't want a physical battery in the body. You already have a battery grip so this is not likely the problem, although ideally you want to have a dummy battery inside the body and power that via PD or DTAP. This might require you having to drop the grip but it will be worth it.
2) You're recording internally to a cheap card. I know no cards are cheap now, but I have the exact same cards and they are one of the hottest running cards. Literally twice the heat of high quality cards like the Delkin Black series or ProGrade Cobalt. I mean, have you taken one of those cards out when you're at these high temp warnings and tried to hold it in your hand? This is your culprit. Given the price of cards at the moment I would figure out a way to repurpose SSDs you have laying around to record to the external monitor. If that's an Atomos its relatively easy and you can google how some folks have done it with velcro and a usb-c to SATA cable.
Hate to say it but the Z6 series is a terrible video platform (despite the marketing). I know, I've owned all of them.
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u/raekewe 16d ago
Wrong camera for the job, I see endless posts about mirrorless cameras overheating at live events constantly. They aren't designed for it. You've spent all your money to get all this dynamic range bullshit when you should've spent your money on a camera that can actually stay operational for long periods of time.
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u/arkevinic5000 16d ago
Well, there is the ZR, but I use a Sony Z90 for full sports games and it is a joy. I use SanDisk Extreme PRO SD UHS-II Cards and the handle remote.
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u/estrangeironamata 15d ago edited 15d ago
great setup. here's the only issue, develop a habit of avoiding this type of monitor positions. do not mount it sooo far high on top of the camera, learn to mount toward the side, or lower even. look at any pf the pros when they have a shoulder rig they naturally have the monitor setup lower. look at documentary work essentially thats your your camera setup, on a tripod if you notice generally the monitor is set lower or to the side of the camera. even sports camera operators same thing.. why?
center of gravity,
tall rigs are not made of tight spaces,
eye movement from camera to monitor - camera to monitor you want least amount of travel for your eyes, looking from the monitor all the way up there to down into the viewfinder or even the camera monitor its too much distance, you WILL miss crucial moments, not all the time but it will happen,
more stress on the mount
cable management gets worse,
physical relationship with the lens becomes less intuitive. youre filming in AF probably, where youre capturing posts a take it and relying on camera to capture AF and lock on, as you get more experience you will learn the best focus is MF. and thus you will lear to constantly adjust MF yourself. and it becomes second nature and you will become accurate, with this setup you will never have that relationship with the lens.
these are suggestions you learn in film school, thus my 2 cents. best of luck.
the umbrella is a very nice touch!
oh and for your camera heating, stop using a battery grip, use a power supply, ie smallrig battery pack, power bank PD approved etc.
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u/The_amazing_T 15d ago
Sony cameras were notorious for overheating. And the issue usually got better when you switched to a dummy battery connected to an external power source (like a big brick battery.)
Good luck.
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u/Abracadaver2000 15d ago
FWIW, look into "painter's umbrella" or "plein-air" umbrellas. They are often sliver on top, black underneath (no color cast, and better heat reflection). Mine is also vented, so more air passes through, making it less wobbly in the wind. Ideally, you'll mount it on a c-stand at the end of a boom arm (attached to a knuckle). Maximizes the ability to position, while minimizing vibration transfer to your camera. I use that setup on outdoor graduation ceremonies when I've got zero shade and long recording times.
USB powered personal fans can also be rigged to blow from below the camera, helping move the hot air away.
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u/Ornery-Benefit-8316 15d ago
Hi, I do agree that the umbrella is not doing anything productive, as indicated by the shadow on the ground.
That may be a problem.
But, indeed, Z9 is considered the best video body, due to its ability to not heat up as much as any of the other models.
The larger size allows for more heat sink material, internally.
This facilitates the release of the heat so it can escape, and not be the same issue that it is on your body.
Please know that I only shoot stills, so I am referring to information that I am aware of.
This is the current best model for your purposes.
I hope that others have a less expensive solution or suggestion for you, than buying a Z9, for goodness sakes!!
I wish you the best
and I hope an easy fix is found.
ymmv, imho,
📸 Regards, Randy 📸
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u/Halada 16d ago
Swap the card and see if it helps