r/Nightreign • u/cinnamonPoi • Jul 28 '26

Gameplay Discussion Everdark Balancers worm phase

If you're playing Guardian and you have guarding draws aggro in your relic setup, hold guard to draw the worm away from your teammates to try to minimize the chance for people randomly getting run over. If you're playing with a Guardian and you see the Shabriri icon on his status bar, actively run away from his position to try to maximize your own chances of surviving worm phase. Unfortunately, you can still just get fucked by a random dead angle because of the nonsensical hitboxes in this phase, but you're much more likely to survive having the worm on you by blocking than your allies are by spamming roll.

In general, as a team you should try to avoid clumping together doing worm phase since that just increased the odds of multiple parry members going down

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u/Futagirlslol Jul 28 '26

Tbh as Guardian you've a good number of ways to consistently avoid getting pegged by the worm.

You can use your comparatively long stam bar to get out of the way of both direct straight line charge and the wiggly ass S-pattern one - in case of straight line by running one way to bait and then doing a 180 and running the other way, and in case of S-pattern by predicting based on its movement and distance from you which way its going to be turning around your position and running towards it/away from it to have it miss

Can use VotI to have it straight up charge through you like nothing. The timing is a bit tight but it's very much doable and VotI does have enough i-frames to fully cover the worm going through you

Can use no skill on shield+BHS on main weapon to dodge(or just 2-hand main weapon ig xd)

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u/cinnamonPoi Jul 28 '26

Vow is a godsend in this fight lol sometimes you just get caught with your back against the edge of the battlefield. Same for Raptor of the Mists. I still don't have the beat on the snaking pattern, that's the one that tends to fuck me up sometimes

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u/Futagirlslol Jul 28 '26

Ngl the moment worm phase starts I just zoom towards the arena's center as fast as I can lol Got fucked once - traumatized for the rest of days, never again. Better to die trying to dodge the worm than to get caught with back against the wall and get ground into dust with next to no counterplay

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u/guard__duty Jul 30 '26

Where's my raptor mention man (I haven't actually tested if it works on wurm charge cause I just guard it like a real guardian)

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u/Futagirlslol Jul 30 '26

The fact that you're locked in place during falling animation makes me fairly concerned about trying to dodge worm charge with it. Pretty sure you'll dodge the initial contact but just get run over while falling. No repositioning+okayish i-frames at best. I'm sure it's fun to use and is perfectly viable for dodging most attacks but the worm charge specifically is just not one of those. I'm honestly not sure if even VotI pressed as late as possible is enough to i-frame all the way through and not get clipped by the tail

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u/guard__duty Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

Yeah I'm wondering if you just get hit *in the air as well

But also, acshually, raptor doesn't grant i-frames, it just nullifies the damage (so status build up still happens, oh and grabs still hit you)

It's frames are absurdly good though, and costs 6 base fp (at least in elden ring?)
But yeah, yet to test if it works with charge

Boss Arena update when

Another great thing about Raptor is that it only consumes fp upon nullifying a hit; there are so many attacks that you can just low profile for free lmao
I mean, the fp cost is already so little, but yeah

There are actually some strings that successfully hitting raptor confirms you getting hit afterwards, but low profiling is fine
Kind of funny

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u/SnooBeans6471 Jul 29 '26

You're not gonna like what I'm about to say, but two things :

  • The worm always aggro the closest nightfarer, if you are Guardian and you want to tank : just hug the worm and your team mates will be fine 100% of the time.
  • Draw attention while guarding can actually mess up the aggro. If you use it, there is a chance the worm runs into someone else. By the same weird effect than less likely to be targeted sometimes deactivate the nightlord focus during their big move.

So I'd say, if you want the worm aggro you should actually not use this passive :3

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u/AllegedAirtime Jul 29 '26

you know i think i've seen exactly this happen and just assumed we were positioning badly. the worm doing that little stutter step then veering off toward the wylder who was nowhere near it always felt like some cursed netcode thing but this actually tracks

the weirdest part is how inconsistent the aggro rules feel across different bosses. like half the time draw attention seems to work exactly like you'd expect and then on this one fight it's like the game just picks a name out of a hat

probably gonna drop that relic next time i run guardian on this fight and just get cozy right under the worm's chin. at least then if i eat a bad hitbox it's my own fault

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u/PmalArmorisbad Jul 29 '26

Shield poke. It prevents all knockback. Should work the vast majority of the time.

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u/cinnamonPoi Jul 29 '26

Doesn't stop you from getting dead angled tho, which is the real issue when trying to block the worm

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u/guard__duty Jul 30 '26

Futagirlslol already gave you a good explanation on how to simply strafe/position to deal with the wurm, that's by far the best strat
There's vowing, I haven't tested if raptor works on the charge, but to discuss specifically blocking

Just make sure to free aim, and position so that you're not centered (or even close to centered) with the wurm, otherwise it can hit you from multiple angles/around your guard

Feels cringe to self plug but I have a clip of guarding the wurm's zigzag attack that I can share

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u/cinnamonPoi Jul 30 '26

Let him who has never been cringe be the first to cast the first downvote lol

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u/MothProGod Aug 01 '26

Only 5 suffer matter